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    (LRA rang yesterday to say they will respond in writing today about the towball weight included in GVM or additional to it)[/QUOTE]

    Certainly interested in that response. The Queensland Dept. of Transport includes it on their website. I believe this is the interpretation of the other states also.
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    Sorry - been away....

    the response was

    Thank you for your enquiry regarding towing.

    The information in the Owner's Hand Book lists World Wide Market requirements on towing however, the Australian section is included in “Towing and Towing Weights” sections.

    If it is necessary to increase the nose weight up to a maximum of 250kg (Australia 350kg) the vehicle load should be reduced accordingly. This ensures that the GVW and maximum rear axle load are not exceeded.

    As a recommendation the caravan/trailer nose weight must be a minimum of 7% of caravan/trailer weight up to a maximum of 350kg ensuring that the rear axle load and GVW are not exceeded.

    Overrun Brakes cover electrical operated braking systems and Australian State and Territory laws apply to the kg figure for overrun brake systems.

    Unfortunately, we are unable to comment further, here at Land Rover Customer Care. Please take your vehicle into your closest authorised Land Rover Dealership. You can obtain all the relevant contact details of your local retailer by visiting our website www.landrover.com.au and by clicking on the ‘locate a dealership’ tab.
    I wasn't convinced that answer the questions I put to them, but thats all I'm getting from them. A few extra words were conveniently added into the statements above which isn't in the handbook which changes the meaning totally, and also individual lines provided rather than including the preceding lines, or reading the section as a whole.

    I referred it elsewhere and it was suggested that the handbook is badly worded and if it came down to it and I was willing to fight any infringement, then it is likely I could have it thrown out as my interpretation is still reasonable.....

    In the meantime, I have reduced the weight as much as possible so at worst interpretation I'm 90kg over limit, or 10kg if I don't fill the second tank. (But the kids will only ever get bigger).

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    GVM upgrade

    I'm gathering no-one's got any suggestions re GVM upgrades for these cars? Seems the first thing to do on the RRS would be to get Discovery Rims... and start working on sourcing a decent touring trailer!
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    I would suspect that the lower control arm bushes wouldn't cope with the extra weight you put on the car after the upgrade.

    I have since found that the D4 is the only true 3500kg tow vehicle on the market.


    https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car...kg-tow-rating/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redback View Post
    I would suspect that the lower control arm bushes wouldn't cope with the extra weight you put on the car after the upgrade.

    I have since found that the D4 is the only true 3500kg tow vehicle on the market.


    https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car...kg-tow-rating/

    Baz.
    Yes when you start thinking about what might fail first there's a lot of engineering to consider.
    Despite being a legit 3500kg tug, the L320 RRS TDV8 only has about 530 kg payload, so a family of four plus even 200 kg on the towball barely leaves space for a dual battery system and a full fridge, let alone any roof rack or long range tank malarkey!
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    There is a way to increase the D4 GVM to 4050kg - the same as the armoured D4... the problem is that sourcing all the parts will be very expensive and you may be forced to also upgrade to the same 6-pot oversized brakes... meaning your choice of tyres will somewhat disappear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart02 View Post
    Yes when you start thinking about what might fail first there's a lot of engineering to consider.
    Despite being a legit 3500kg tug, the L320 RRS TDV8 only has about 530 kg payload, so a family of four plus even 200 kg on the towball barely leaves space for a dual battery system and a full fridge, let alone any roof rack or long range tank malarkey!

    The 200kg on the ball doesn't come off of the payload according to LR.

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    can we see that on LR letterhead Mr Tombie?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonesy63 View Post
    There is a way to increase the D4 GVM to 4050kg - the same as the armoured D4... the problem is that sourcing all the parts will be very expensive and you may be forced to also upgrade to the same 6-pot oversized brakes... meaning your choice of tyres will somewhat disappear.
    Yeah wow. Already got big brakes and maybe even the heavier duty control arms on the RRS, I wonder what else is required...
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    Then 2010 RRS TDV8 'Roger' w traxide DBS, UHF, Cooper Zeons, Superchips remap
    Then 2010 D4 TDV6 'Jumbo' w traxide DBS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    The 200kg on the ball doesn't come off of the payload according to LR.
    That would be quite extraordinary!
    Now 2016 D4 HSE 'Leo' and Steve the Triumph Speed Twin
    Then 2010 D4 3.0 HSE 'James'
    Then 2010 RRS TDV8 'Roger' w traxide DBS, UHF, Cooper Zeons, Superchips remap
    Then 2010 D4 TDV6 'Jumbo' w traxide DBS
    First love 2002 D2 TD5 'Disco Stu'

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