Thread: Cheapest Place to Buy Lifeguard 6 by the Litre

Just buy 20 litre drums from ZF - cheapest around. When Repco have their discount weekends, 1 litre bottles can be bought for under $30 a bottle.

I have never had a problem buying direct from Motospecs and not paying $37 a litre ($589 (with GST) for 20 litres, last lot I purchased, 2 years back).
Not a lot cheaper than $37 a litre perhaps, but if you have to do a trans service it works out reasonable compared to the alternatives.
Any problem contacting Motospecs they are in NSW, WA, QLD, SA and VIC.
I'd expect most could just order from nearest branch/or state.

Google "Motospecs" and go to their home page and look at "contact us" listing.

Okay so hello everyone, I am new to this forum and LR owing in General. I bought a 2008 TDV6 Discovery 3 at the end of June and I am generally very pleased with it. I knew it needed the brakes doing and upon purchasing it I decided I would do a service and change filters, fluids etc as well, which is when I started reading on here and on the UK LR forums about the joys of the 6HP26 transmission!

Well you can imagine my excitement after reading about shuddering transmissions, for it to then shudder as it had been watching me read about it and decided to provide a demonstration of what it was like, on take off from a set of lights!
I had a good look through the service history and receipts that came with it and identified it had had the metal pan and fluid changed at TRS back in 2014 at 116,000km with LG6 fluid and then it had a service and inspection with a 'full flush' at around 200,000km about 18 months ago.
I have since found out from the company that did the service at 200K that they used Fuchs Titan 4400 ATF.
I'm going to give some instant shudder fixx a go at first, and intend to attempt a diy mega flush or multiple changes on my own.
I have called ZF and they passed me onto Mototspec who quoted, hopefully you're sitting down, $62/L for LG6! He also suggested Febi ATF as an alternative for $45/L.
I then talked to my local Repco and after the usual 'this is what the computer says', I got him to listen and gave him the part number from on here and low and behold it was there, good news was they were offering the LG6 at $46/L so I thought I would try my luck and see what the bulk price for 20L would be and once he picked his jaw up off the floor he managed to stammer out that 20L was $922!!!! Now compare that to say Penrite ATF BMV which is $245 for 20L and my question has to be, is the LG6 4x as good?

Also is the mega flush worth it in terms of volume of ATF used or will several changes have the same effect?

Has anyone tried using one of those drill powered pumps such as this Josco Drill Powered Pump | Bunnings Warehouse to pump the new fluid in? I've read multiple posts about using air pressure or head pressure generated through height, but haven't found anything about using a pump.

Any thoughts on this are gladly received, especially from those using the penrite atf bmv or anyone who knows of cheaper supply of the LG6.

In the back of my mind I'm thinking if the penrite is ok, I can spend the same money as the 20L of LG6 and buy an IID tool instead!

I did same check and repco was $41 litre or try Motospecs also who supply repco.

Worth using genuine as only every 80-100k kms.

Search for the Filo change method also on Disco3.co.uk. Seems little gain in doing the pan and filter every time.

Originally Posted by PerthDisco

I did same check and repco was $41 litre or try Motospecs also who supply repco.

Worth using genuine as only every 80-100k kms.

Search for the Filo change method also on Disco3.co.uk. Seems little gain in doing the pan and filter every time.

I can tell you from oil sample testing that the Filo method dosent clear nearly as much of the old fluid out as you'd hope. (see my post here: Disco 3/4 Automatic Transmission FAQ - 6 Speed) I put through nearly 20L's of penrite BMV and there was still a decent concentration of LG6 in my trans. My thoughts now are simply more regular changes at service time. Not such and issue with a brand new trans with under 50-70,000km on it, but defiantly worth considering after that time frame.

Yeah there is a definite highlands tax here, might try Repco Campbelltown as often they are less than down here. Motospecs at Glendenning was the one who quoted me $62/L, even the bloke I talked to sounded surprised.

Good news is, just did the Instant Shudder Fixx and it appears to have lived up to its name. I attempted to recreate where it had done it in the past, but not a sausage.
The fluid I took out with a syringe was very clean, although its only done around 8000km since the last flush so I might wait a bit and start saving for the inevitable rebuild instead

Originally Posted by shanegtr

I can tell you from oil sample testing that the Filo method dosent clear nearly as much of the old fluid out as you'd hope. (see my post here: Disco 3/4 Automatic Transmission FAQ - 6 Speed) I put through nearly 20L's of penrite BMV and there was still a decent concentration of LG6 in my trans. My thoughts now are simply more regular changes at service time. Not such and issue with a brand new trans with under 50-70,000km on it, but defiantly worth considering after that time frame.

Yes I have read many of your posts on the analysis of the fluids and the options for changing the fluid, they have been very useful. What mileage are you up to now with the BMV and have you had any issues with it?

Originally Posted by shanegtr

I can tell you from oil sample testing that the Filo method dosent clear nearly as much of the old fluid out as you'd hope. (see my post here: Disco 3/4 Automatic Transmission FAQ - 6 Speed) I put through nearly 20L's of penrite BMV and there was still a decent concentration of LG6 in my trans. My thoughts now are simply more regular changes at service time. Not such and issue with a brand new trans with under 50-70,000km on it, but defiantly worth considering after that time frame.

Any ATF drop/change is only changing 50/60% so it’s only that Filo is easy and quick to do it on a repeating basis to keep the fluid ‘fresh’ rather than new. Less of a problem if not changing from ZF6. Filo plus pan drain maybe is even better. I like the idea of pushing in exactly what you take out as a simple way of changing.

Seems there is little evidence the filter needs changing after the first change to steel pan avoiding that messy part of the process.