Reply With QuoteOriginally Posted by NomadicD3
Does the car indicate that it's in TTM? I've never seen it done but maybe some advisory light appears on the dash?
ForumSage
Thanks Brian. Different to what I was told - I'll ask again next Tuesday and mention that I have been told something different to what they have been telling me.
Cheers .........
BMKAL
ChatterBox
Does the car indicate that it's in TTM? I've never seen it done but maybe some advisory light appears on the dash?
TopicToaster
Page 99 of the owner's manual describes what should be seen at startup.
It is a vehicle with an arrow inside it pointing down. On top are two curved arrows - one pointing left, the other pointing right.
Well it is on my MY06 anyway.
Cheers, Dale
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SubscriberYes it does. A warning that vehicle is not in customer mode or words to that effect. Saw it when I have put D4s into TTM with iiDTool.
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ChatterBox
Thanks mate.
So there shouldn't be any confusion then one would think?
If a tyre place doesn't know that there is an actual visual indication for TTM, he probably shouldn't be touching your car.
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if you leave drivers door open the car does not self adjust suspension again until door closes. It’s a good way to find a leak in air bag as car will sag and not correct if one of the airbags are leaking. Also I imagine it may help when wheel alignment is being carried out to stop air suspension from moving.
Master
SupporterI've been told this by numerous people - so have no reason to doubt it... Even my recommended wheel alignment specialist said that was how he stopped the suspension adjusting during alignment.
However I have had multiple examples where the family have got out of my vehicle, and i can hear air being released from the suspension, while the doors are still open.
Is that not 'adjusting the suspension'??
Personally, just need to put it in TTM, and give it to the tyre shop to do the alignment. Saves on all the questions...
Rob
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I think it’s driver’s door only that stops it adjusting not sure about other doors. I guess putting it in ttm mode is the best option if you have diagnostics access.
OldBushie
Not correct. It can/will move. And can be up to 20mm variation side to side/front to rear.
Wizard
SubscriberSelective quotes from the Workshop Manual:
Height changes are also restricted for safety reasons, when a door is opened and the vehicle is stationary for example.
Vehicle height changes are restricted if the air suspension control module receives a 'Door Open' signal and the speed is less than 5 mph (8 km/h)
Ride Height Tolerance Control
The air suspension control module has two ride height tolerance bands; normal tolerance and tight tolerance.The control module considers the vehicle to be at target height if the current height is within the appropriate tolerance band. Height adjustments are not made until the vehicle height falls outside of the tolerance band for a pre-determined time. The time period is different depending on if the vehicle is moving or stationary. The tolerance bands are as follows:
Normal ± 10 mm
Tight ± 3 mm.
The tight tolerance band is only used if set by the Land Rover approved diagnostic system for diagnostic purposes or when the vehicle has been stationary for more than 5 minutes.
Door Open Inhibit Mode
If one or more of the vehicle doors are opened during a height change when the vehicle is stationary, the air suspension control module will restrict further height change.The LED on the air suspension LED display for the target mode height will remain illuminated and the raising or lowering LED will flash.If all of the doors are closed within 90 seconds, the height change will resume. If the 90 second period is exceeded,the message 'CONFIRM REQUIRED SUSPENSION HEIGHT' will be displayed in the IC.
Periodic Leveling Mode
When the vehicle is parked, the air suspension control module 'wakes up' two hours after the ignition was last switched off and then once every twenty four hours. The vehicle height is checked and if the vehicle is not level within a pre-set tolerance, small downwards height adjustments may be made automatically.
And from the wheel alignment section:
6. Vehicles with dynamic suspension: Using the diagnostic tool, set vehicle to 'Geometry Set Mode', using the instructions below. Putting the vehicle into this mode will make sure that the ride heights are controlled more accurately.
1. Select the 'Configuration' tab
2. Select 'Set up and Configure'.
3. Select 'Air Suspension'.
4. Select 'Suspension Geometry Set Up'.
5. Select 'Tight Tolerance Mode'.
6. Follow the on-screen instructions until the set up process has finished.
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