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    Out of interest Dougal, why not consider just using the complete shock and airbag strut rather than dummying up a pretend shock?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryO View Post
    Out of interest Dougal, why not consider just using the complete shock and airbag strut rather than dummying up a pretend shock?
    It'll be too long for the back. I suspect using the struts could be done in the front.
    But that would be a change in suspension configuration which would require certification here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vern View Post
    Dougal, I spoke with air bag man about longer bellows, they gave me a part number for some and open and closed lengths, from memory was over 10" of travel. Will see if I can find where I wrote it down.
    Longer stroke is one thing. But wide availability and improvements in air spring ride are the other benefits I'm looking for.
    The EAS RRC, even with buggered shocks, does ride a bit harder than say a RRS. Despite the RRC having 16" wheels with lots of sidewall and the RRS having 20" wheels with not much sidewall.

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    Don't forget that the suspension is also limited by the arms, axles, anti roll bar and the shocks as well as the air bags. Traction control almost negates the need to keep wheels on the ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Rich~ View Post
    Don't forget that the suspension is also limited by the arms, axles, anti roll bar and the shocks as well as the air bags. Traction control almost negates the need to keep wheels on the ground.
    If you're trying to crawl up something, certainly. If you're after ride comfort over uneven ground then you need travel.

    Nothing is set in stone yet. I'm just investigating all the available options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    How much do you know about the L322 airbags Graeme?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    The EAS RRC, even with buggered shocks, does ride a bit harder than say a RRS.
    Does the RRS have CVDs that improve the ride? Also, my D4 transmits bumps more harshly now that the shocks have very little slow speed damping, ie worn-out shocks don't necessarily provide a softer ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    Does the RRS have CVDs that improve the ride? Also, my D4 transmits bumps more harshly now that the shocks have very little slow speed damping, ie worn-out shocks don't necessarily provide a softer ride.
    I'm not sure about CVD. This particular RRS is 2011MY but Sept 2010 build date. I have the options list for it and can't find any reference to CVD or other suspension options.

    I do a bit with mtb suspension so I've got a feel for what is caused by spring and what is caused by damper. These dampers are buggered and let the vehicle wallow. They've lost whatever low speed damping they originally had so certainly give a softer ride over small amplitude bumps. It's not as harsh as the early p38's, but if I can improve it I'd like to.

    I don't want to throw new shocks at it until I'm sure of the direction I want to go with air springs. The aim right now is to see which other rover family air springs I can either write off as won't fit or keep looking into.

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