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    Quote Originally Posted by d2dave View Post
    In my spannering days the big piece of hollow pipe that went from the gearbox to the diff was known as a tailshaft. The two solid pieces of steel that run from the diff to the wheels was called an axle.

    If these terms were still used there would not be confusion.
    Yes and do know this, but as Jon says here, independant vehicles axle is refered to as the drive shaft and also a tailshft is too, more so in the USA I think.

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    Driveshafts can also be known as half shafts.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by shanegtr View Post
    Driveshafts can also be known as half shafts.......

    Hey buggar off, we're confused enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by shanegtr View Post
    Driveshafts can also be known as half shafts.......
    Quote Originally Posted by Redback View Post
    Hey buggar off, we're confused enough
    I've only ever heard of axles referred to as half shafts.

    There you go Baz ...................... just thought I'd add to the confusion.
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    Well it's official guys..... the printed Land Rover Tax Invoice describes the part as a "LH Rear Driveshaft".

    And this one was a bargain at $0.00 Plus GST .... oh, and 4 1/2 days in a workshop

    So got it back, seems to be fine, snapped the drive shaft near the hub end.

    I am still suspicious that this is a secondary failure, so I am driving a bit cautiously and watching and listening closely. I'll be very glad to be proven wrong

    It's booked in for it's next service in 2 weeks time anyway and most of next week it will sit in an airport car park, so I'll just monitor and see what surfaces.

    The other plus is the car is nice and clean again.

    Hopefully I'll report back in a blissfully uneventful couple of weeks.


    P.S.... The very helpful service technician kindly pointed out... "Oh this is really unusual.. they don't normally break shafts - usually it's the diff" ... err thanks.... I think.
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    Exactly where mine broke, at the CV, only mine was the RH side, I have a funny feeling there may be a weak batch of axles out there, as my D4 has the E-Diff and supposedly stronger axles, from memory you have the E-Diff too Mark??

    See I'm not the only one

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    OUCH I broke something

    Is your shift lever behaviour back to normal mark ?

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    No mine doesn't have an e-Diff, so I thought they were meant to be different axles..?? strange.

    The lever never moved with shift.. it just behaviour that I thought was trans dropping into Neutral ( I guess it may not have been).... I'm just still struggling to reconcile Sundays behaviour with a broken shaft 4 days later.

    It might be a little paranoia, but I still think the shift behaviour of the trans is not 100% normal.... so that's up for discussion at service after I monitor it for a little longer. At times when you slow and then take off, but don't totally stop... , it feels like it doesn't drop back far enough. Like if you drove a manual through a round-about, almost stopped, but only went back to 3rd for example.

    Anyway... we will see.
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    There's that lingering trepidation I mentioned earlier ... an old friend of mine too

    In the earlier thread you mentioned that pressing on the lever made it feel like it was dropping into N (IIRC) - is that behaviour gone ?

    And that's a hilarious comment from the service guy about diffs ... so true, so sad ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redback View Post
    Exactly where mine broke, at the CV, only mine was the RH side, I have a funny feeling there may be a weak batch of axles out there, as my D4 has the E-Diff and supposedly stronger axles, from memory you have the E-Diff too Mark??

    See I'm not the only one

    Baz.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bytemrk View Post
    No mine doesn't have an e-Diff, so I thought they were meant to be different axles..?? strange.

    The lever never moved with shift.. it just behaviour that I thought was trans dropping into Neutral ( I guess it may not have been).... I'm just still struggling to reconcile Sundays behaviour with a broken shaft 4 days later.

    It might be a little paranoia, but I still think the shift behaviour of the trans is not 100% normal.... so that's up for discussion at service after I monitor it for a little longer. At times when you slow and then take off, but don't totally stop... , it feels like it doesn't drop back far enough. Like if you drove a manual through a round-about, almost stopped, but only went back to 3rd for example.

    Anyway... we will see.
    The parts are different for ediff vs open diff assemblies. It's interesting that the shaft assemblies vary very little in price so maybe there is no up-rating in strength between the two and it's more about slightly different fitting, different number of splines, cv strength etc. i wouldn't mind betting the shafts them selves are the same.

    Mark, regarding the shift pattern of the box, the dealer will most likely just reset the box so it re-learns your driving style.

    Did you get to see the broken bit? It would interesting to see if there was evidence of an old fracture/weakness at the break. Baz showed me his and it was a really clean break very close to the CV where the shaft had been machined to a narrower diameter.
    Cheers,

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