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    first Issue with the New to me D3

    so the D3 died on me the other day while driving down the highway.
    cut out, no power.
    the hill decent light, a exclamation mark in a circle light and one other which I forget came on, along with an 'F' on the screen that normally show the Auto gear you are in when in manual mode if that makes sence?

    pulled over, turned it off, turned it back on again and all good.

    Lucky I was on the way to my mates work anyway as he is a Mechanic,
    We hooked the snap-on scan tool up to it and it has a few few codes (i had read and cleared them all once since purchase)
    the main one I remember and that stuck out was 'Rail pressure Low'

    I've got the whole list printed out and left them on the ECU this time and called the dealer/car yard I got the car from, they down played it said ti will be nothing and that non land rover scan tools are never anywhere near correct when reading faults and that he will take it to MR auto to have them check it. (sounds a bit off to me, as the snap on scan tool lets you read and see everything live and to read and clear the codes, so I doubt its way off?)
    so I drop it to him Thursday morning for all this to happen.

    Im worried its going to be the VCV or high pressure pump and that they will stuff me around till the 30 day stat warranty is up so they dont have to fix it,
    what are peoples opinions? its only done this once to me, and I wasn't booting the thing int he guts either at the time (which I do so on occasion anyway and it doesn't fault then)

    ill be calling MR auto the check this guy does take it too them, and also asking them to advice me on what they find (via my Mates work shop who deal with MR on a weekly basis)

    finger crossed its nothing serious, and either way that it is repaired under Warranty for me!
    Ill try and remember to post a list of the codes when I get home tonight.

    Leroy.

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    I would have thought that if you can prove the problem occurred and was reported within the 30 day statutory warranty period, they would be obliged to fix it under warranty if the exact same problem persisted after the 30 days expires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by winaje View Post
    I would have thought that if you can prove the problem occurred and was reported within the 30 day statutory warranty period, they would be obliged to fix it under warranty if the exact same problem persisted after the 30 days expires.
    Not sure, hopefully,
    the rail pressure low fault is on the print out from the faults when I picked the car up too, so its not like it occurred for the first time after I got it either it seems.

    not sure what it could be other than VCV or maybe a blocked fuel filter?

    Leroy.

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    They'll have to fix it.

    Do yourself a favour and put everything to them in writing, without exception. Document for yourself conversations, times and dates, content of the conversation and any agreements or disagreements - then follow all of them up in writing..

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    What faults came back after clearing them - that will weed out the one offs and show if there is actually anything wrong.

    I must admit I would not be worrying about it unless it happens repeatedly. The systems hiccup from time to time and I always ignore one off faults. The only ones that ever came back after clearing in 4 years of ownership have been EGR faults - highlighting there was an ongoing issue with these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catch-22 View Post
    They'll have to fix it.

    Do yourself a favour and put everything to them in writing, without exception. Document for yourself conversations, times and dates, content of the conversation and any agreements or disagreements - then follow all of them up in writing..
    Already emailed them confirming im bringing it in Thursday, and why, and the date of when it died out and the fault code of concern.

    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    What faults came back after clearing them - that will weed out the one offs and show if there is actually anything wrong.

    I must admit I would not be worrying about it unless it happens repeatedly. The systems hiccup from time to time and I always ignore one off faults. The only ones that ever came back after clearing in 4 years of ownership have been EGR faults - highlighting there was an ongoing issue with these.

    Garry
    From Memory the returning Codes were the Rail pressure Low, and also an EGR fault.

    ill try and remember to Scan the sheets tonight and post the codes from pickup which I cleared and then the codes from Saturday when it died on me.

    I'm sure it will be fine and that the dealer will sort it out, just a little nervous as a guy I work with after I got the car told me the same dealer refused to fix some faults on a Jeep he purchased from them less then 2 weeks after he picked up the car, the seem nice enough on the phone, and I will give them the benefit of the doubt.
    I am not on here to shame them, I am on here to get advice on what the issue could possibly be in order to save myself money and worry in the future when I am out of the warranty period.

    Thanks
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    Bought from a non-dealer? You really need a LandRover shop to do this, ask them to send it there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicky View Post
    Bought from a non-dealer? You really need a LandRover shop to do this, ask them to send it there!
    from a Car yard who always have Land Rovers and mostly land rovers.
    they told me they will have MR Auto do the diagnosis, like I said, im not here to bag out the dealer/yard at all, im here asking if anyone has any idea what the issue could be. I have faith in Mr auto's ability to find the real issue and advice then have the dealer/yard fix/have MR fix the car under warranty.

    Leroy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy_Riding View Post
    From Memory the returning Codes were the Rail pressure Low, and also an EGR fault.
    Did the Engine Management Light (EML) come on after the codes were cleared?

    If not then there may just be minor communication issues. Certainly if you have faulty EGRs you will have the orange EML light on and the car may run like a dog depending whether the EGRs are locked open or closed. Not sure what happens with a Low Rail Pressure fault though.

    I hope it is all sorted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    Did the Engine Management Light (EML) come on after the codes were cleared?

    If not then there may just be minor communication issues. Certainly if you have faulty EGRs you will have the orange EML light on and the car may run like a dog depending whether the EGRs are locked open or closed. Not sure what happens with a Low Rail Pressure fault though.

    I hope it is all sorted.

    Garry
    no lights came on after the Codes were cleared.
    what does the EML light look like? as i cannot remember the third light that came on when it cut out.

    Thanks
    Leroy.

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