first Issue with the New to me D3

**Leroy_Riding** · 19th November 2014, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by garrycol

I can't really help but it does indicate an EGR problem and if these are locked open when you want power could make it run like a dog.

I suspect many of those codes have been in there for a long time - need to note these as you have done, have them cleared and go for a long drive and then read again - these are the ones that will be important but most will be communication issues most of which will be inconsequential.

Garry

Thanks Garry,

If you look at the 'long' PDF you will see there are Dates from the 6th, and dates from the 15th.
after the codes were read on the 6th we cleared them all, so everything shown on the 15th is when I scanned it after it died on me so all those codes have returned over the 9 days since it was last cleared. In that time it had done about 450kms or so.
they are on one sheet like that as that's how they re saved under my 'file' on the snap on scan tool at my friends Work.

The EGR could be sticking open, not sure, it doesn't feel like its got as much power as it could have, but then again it is one heavy beast of a car and I only have petrol's to compare too.

Leroy.

**101RRS** · 19th November 2014, 01:59 PM

Sorry - missed that aspect - on looking again to my untrained eye it does seem as if you have EGR issues and Low fuel Pressure.

On the second aspect, my 07MY RRS (applies to D3) as well had to have a recall done on the Injection Pump - you might want to see if this applied to your VIN and whether it was done.

Garry

**Leroy_Riding** · 19th November 2014, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by garrycol

Sorry - missed that aspect - on looking again to my untrained eye it does seem as if you have EGR issues and Low fuel Pressure.

On the second aspect, my 07MY RRS (applies to D3) as well had to have a recall done on the Injection Pump - you might want to see if this applied to your VIN and whether it was done.

Garry

thanks Garry, ill check out the VIN for the Recal,
The Dealer/Yard seems to think its going to be the brake light switch

no idea what makes him think that. but will see what they say tomorrow after they have had the car for the Day. turns out also they wont eb taking it to MR auto like the originally told me, and that they would have their workshop look at it. . . . anyway we shall see.
If it keeps faulting on EGR and injector pressure low, am I wrong to expect that they should at least do some tests on the pump and injectors, and also the EGR valve?

Leroy.

**BobD** · 19th November 2014, 06:54 PM

A brake switch fault causes massive failure of everything and warning lights come on everywhere, with a car that won't move at all eventually. However, from what I can gather there is no error recorded that alerts the techs to the fact that it is the brake switch causing all the problems.

When my D4 switch failed at about 70,000km and I managed to limp to the dealer in peak hour traffic, the dealer said it was a software issue, updated the software and sent me on my way. An hour or so later I just made it home and I could not get into my driveway. It got trucked to the dealer and this time, with a permanent failure of the switch rather than intermittent failure, they managed to track down the fault.

They could be right but you will soon find out anyway, I suspect.

Bob

**Leroy_Riding** · 19th November 2014, 08:45 PM

Well let a hope the D3 makes it too the dealer tomorrow. Tried to go gr8 a short drive tonight with a friend, it cut out 3 times, so I took it home and we took her car, little embarrassing!!! Hopefully it's a simple fix and they find and fix it tomorrow then!! I can't be without a car!

Leroy.

**Leroy_Riding** · 19th November 2014, 09:26 PM

Took a photo of the lights this time

**Leroy_Riding** · 20th November 2014, 11:17 AM

Called Land rover Australia, checked the VIN they told me all recalls have been done, including the injector pump which was done in 2009 on the vehicle.
they couldnt shed any light on the issue I am having either.

My Mechanic is pretty set on it being the VCV but obviously cant touch the car further till the dealer/yard is done with it, phone call to MR auto by my mechanic also comes to more or less the same conclusion and that they have seen it before and would also point blame at the VCV in the first instance.

so we shall see.
the dealer/yard tried to pin blame on my newly fitted headunit, but the codes were showing and the car doing this before the unit was fitted, he seemed adamant that was it to untill i explained the only error he is getting from that is the canbus cant find the cd player error and thats all. and that the issue ws there when i picked up the car and returned multiple times before the new head unit was fitted. . . he didn't seem to happy, apparently they are going to take it for a long drive and see if it fualts for them. there goes all my diesel! haha oh well, hopefully it gets sorted. . . apparently a new pump is only around $1000 anyway? lots less than the one i had to replace on my defender (twice!)

**Leroy_Riding** · 20th November 2014, 01:35 PM

for those following,
Dealer Yard has said they narrow it down to either battery low voltage (guess that could indicate possible future alternator failure?)
or the hand brake. . .

so they cleared the codes, and said that it shouldn't come back but if it does they will book it in to MR auto,
At least they tried, ill check the tail light bulbs tonight. . . seems across the inter-webs that's what everyone blames for everything so might be worth looking into anyway.

will let everyone know if anything new occurs or happens. going for a bit of a trip on Saturday (highway not offroad) will see how we go.

Leroy.

**Leroy_Riding** · 24th November 2014, 07:45 AM

Well, no change, took a short drive the other night(Friday) from Burpengary to northlakes (15 mins) and it faulted once on the way there, then 6 times ont he way home 0_0

I tried narrowing it down, seeing as the dealer/yard claimed it was likely a low voltage issue, I thought maybe it could be that i had stereo blasting AC going and headlights on, so i turned them all off windows down and kept going and it just continually faulted making for a fun drive home. yet all day Saturday I drove it around, and all day yesterday. really not sure.

anyway, i now need to find a time i can be without a car for a few days while they send it to Mr auto to attempt to sort it out.

Leroy.

**Rich84** · 24th November 2014, 08:23 AM

Your faults do seem to indicate low system voltage or one of the common "short" faults that T5 platform cars have (brake light switch, brake light bulb, etc). Note the "communication failure" messages - the various computers simply will fail to operate with insufficient voltage and you will get the lost communication error. Normally the alt on our cars doesn't fail slowly over time, the diode pack at the back literally self destructs in an instant and it's all over - charge fault light should come on (mine did when alternator died). I also got a whirring noise like a dead bearing, smoke (!) and voltage just under 12 at idle.

Once voltage dropped under 10 I started having real problems - numerous faults (including F gear error), transmission allowing engine to rev to 4500 then brutally slamming the next gear, no power. New battery and alternator and all good again.

The only time something like this ever happened again, as I said earlier, I had been listening to the stereo for a couple of hours while installing an auto trans cooler. I let the car run with the faults for about five minutes, turned off and restarted, and all has been well since.

The battery in these cars, for reasons I don't fully understand yet, seems to play an essential role in the electrical system and balancing out voltage etc. In all other cars I've owned or maintained, if the battery is low but the engine is running, the car will not suffer any problems at all - it will just drive normally and charge the battery. In our LRs, the system voltage appears to be affected directly by the battery, and if the battery has a dead cell or is a bit low, the system will experience cascading errors as you have experienced.

I would attempt to swap the battery for a known good one to see if that makes a difference, and thoroughly clean the terminals at the same time. I was able to use the battery from a Triton in an emergency once - you could see if one of your mates has a battery that will work. If it does, replace your battery with a proper spec unit. I'm using a DIN85L century 780CCA on a TDV6 - had it for about two years with no issues.

EDIT: I also noticed your D3 doesn't have the centre LCD - what model is that? I haven't seen that before!

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