Fuel Pump Failure Recall

Sorry, just been on the phone to LR, Not all Vehicles were part of that action, only those with symptoms such as fuel leaking/ smell, and noise/ performance issues are part of that recall action IN AUSTRALIA. I know it says on the TSB it covers Aust vehicles but that is a matter for them to take it on a case by case basis apparently.

Good luck trying to get a highish mileage D3 etc recalled with a perfectly functioning HPFP.

Of course an official word from LRA here would be a good end to all the speculation???

JC

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Originally Posted by CaverD3

Rubbish!
The recall applies to all vehicles in the VIN and pump must be replaced.
The failure can cause HP atomised diesel to be sprayed all over the engine bay, sales were stopped in Russia due to fires.
It would be worth pushing this issue with LR. Speak to the LR dealership yourself and they will be be able to tell you if it has been replaced and by whom. If it has been replaced and the belt has not been tensioned properly it can fail again. In that case claim from dealer who replaced it.
Don't back down it was a major safety recall and could have caused a fire.

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This is impossible to do incorrectly, early belts will not fit later EU series, and later will not fit early EU series. The tensioner is automatic.

JC

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Originally Posted by CaverD3

This what can happen!

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Just read that, poor fellow, BUT was it 100% due to HPFP failure??? If the fuel filter isn't correctly installed they can leak (Unlikely cause though as they are underneath near the trans), there are bleed off lines in the engine bay that can leak, and don't forget oil supply line to turbocharger can leak, and alternators can catch fire...I have personally seen a fuel line from the HPFP to the passenger side fuel rail leaking at the rail end, and dripping ONTO the turbocharger and manifold...:o. There are a few reasons for vehicle fires and pinpointing the HPFP when it may or may not be the case is a little irresponsible. It is a terrible result whatever the reason and mythoughts are with the owner.

JC

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Originally Posted by justinc

Sorry, just been on the phone to LR, Not all Vehicles were part of that action, only those with symptoms such as fuel leaking/ smell, and noise/ performance issues are part of that recall action IN AUSTRALIA. I know it says on the TSB it covers Aust vehicles but that is a matter for them to take it on a case by case basis apparently.

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LR are trying it on. If there is a TSB for certain VINs for replacement of the HPFP and they issue a recall for the issue a claim in court would likely be successful. The risk is that the HPF is likely to fail with possibly with dire concequences at some point. It would not be difficult proving the failure of the HPFP was caused by a faulty pump if the VIN of the vehicle is within the TSB.

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Originally Posted by justinc

Good luck trying to get a highish mileage D3 etc recalled with a perfectly functioning HPFP.

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Agree LRA will fight to not payout on this one. :mad:

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Originally Posted by justinc

Of course an official word from LRA here would be a good end to all the speculation???

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Yeh right :Rolling:

Justinc, you may be right but LR dealer tech told me that they had been told to ensure the belt was fitted correctly.
Joney had a second one fail maybe he can say why.

I can only recount my own experience - car was 3 1/2 years old with 38,000km in perfect condition. No brake issues and no leaking fuel injection pump.

Under the recall, both the brake booster and the pump were replaced over two days.

As far as I am aware the recall was not to inspect the fuel pump and replace if required but to replace it.

Cheers

Garry

I had my D3 flat-bedded twice to a dealer for HPFP replacements. The first time it happened, it sounded like a chaff-cutter - with diesel dripping hard onto the turbo, with lots and lots of smoke. I can see how they would catch fire. The second time it failed, it was just a ticking noise and was drive-able, and HPFP was replace at a regular service. The third time it was replaced, the engine stopped while idling at a set of lights. Not enough power to go up a small hill in suburbs, so was towed to dealership again. This time they replaced everything fuel goes through or is stored in - at major expense to LR. The dealer did manage to screw up the installation of the in-tank pump/sender unit- leaking diesel everywhere. The final time the HPFP was replaced - again during a regular service, was the one listed in the latest recall notice - which I assume were the same pumps used into the D4 2.7s. There was NO failure of the previous HPFP - the dealer just replaced the fully functioning HPFP.

So rather than say they will never replace a good HPFP - I submit it would depend on which version of the HPFP you had! There were at least 3 - and only the last one was good!

To the OP - go to a dealership - don't waste your time ringing LR.

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Originally Posted by jonesy63

I had my D3 flat-bedded twice to a dealer for HPFP replacements. The first time it happened, it sounded like a chaff-cutter - with diesel dripping hard onto the turbo, with lots and lots of smoke. I can see how they would catch fire. The second time it failed, it was just a ticking noise and was drive-able, and HPFP was replace at a regular service. The third time it was replaced, the engine stopped while idling at a set of lights. Not enough power to go up a small hill in suburbs, so was towed to dealership again. This time they replaced everything fuel goes through or is stored in - at major expense to LR. The dealer did manage to screw up the installation of the in-tank pump/sender unit- leaking diesel everywhere. The final time the HPFP was replaced - again during a regular service, was the one listed in the latest recall notice - which I assume were the same pumps used into the D4 2.7s. There was NO failure of the previous HPFP - the dealer just replaced the fully functioning HPFP.

So rather than say they will never replace a good HPFP - I submit it would depend on which version of the HPFP you had! There were at least 3 - and only the last one was good!

To the OP - go to a dealership - don't waste your time ringing LR.

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:o:o:o That is one horror story I hope to never come across! Hope everything is OK now, Luckily the one I am doing now didn't have any of those symptoms, just limp mode and low pressure fault codes, and metal filings in the fuel filter...:(

JC

JC

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Originally Posted by justinc

Hope everything is OK now

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Thanks Justin - all good!

About 2 weeks after that last HPFP was installed, I drove to Darwin via Arkaroola-Oodnadatta Track-Uluru-Mereenie Loop- Kakadu, then down through central Qld. 12,000km in 3 weeks and had a fantastic time.

Traded in my D3 on my D4 2.7 in 2011, with about 138,000km on odometer. They finally got the HPFP design right in Nov 2010! :wasntme:

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Originally Posted by jonesy63

12,000km in 3 weeks and had a fantastic time.

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I just beat you on our trip from Perth via Great Central Rd, Uluru, Plenty Highway etc to Cape York and back on the bitumen via Townsville, Mt Isa, Kununurra and Broome in my 2010 D4 SE. We did 14,000km in 3 weeks and enjoyed every minute of it. No fuel pump problem with the 3l though.



Bob