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Thread: D4 ride difference 2010/11 to 2013?

  1. #11
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    Went out again today, this time for a 140 km return run to town and then a bit over roads traveled weekly. The rear end definitely doesn't get snatched back down over bumps on country roads, instead being much more gentle in the process. They don't cause the previous jarring of my wife's injured back and there's no way I would have thought of replacing them if they had given this ride originally.

    The shock numbers supersede the original D4 numbers so the original ones cannot be purchased unless from old stock hiding somewhere. JLRA didn't have any stock so would have been at least a 3 week wait ex UK because LR wont ship them by air although Duckworths were happy to send by air. The front shocks (not assemblies) are LR013930 (cost 260 GBP per pair) and the rear shocks (not assemblies) LR038095 (cost 230 GBP per pair) + 97 GBP UPS air freight.

    Whether just the shocks or the complete air-spring assemblies are replaced depends on how many kms the air-springs have done and if they will be fitted by someone else that will cost more due to the extra time. I did the rears first with their dust protectors taking a bit more time but the 2nd front only took 1 hour from start to finish including transferring the air-spring. The assemblies are substantially more expensive than just the shocks but as the air-springs themselves cost almost as much as the complete assemblies, if there's any doubt about the condition of the air-spring then replacing the whole assembly would seem to be appropriate.
    MY21.5 L405 D350 Vogue SE with 19s. Produce LLAMS for LR/RR, Jeep GC/Dodge Ram
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    Do you put a new seal kit in when you replace the shocks only?
    I know it is recommended just want to check if it is necessary.
    Fuji white RRS L494 AB Gone
    2023 Ford Ranga

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    A seal kit was included with each shock, including 2 large o-rings even though the shocks were pre-fitted with them. However I needed one to replace one pushed out of its groove and pinched. The sequence of the shaft seals is: o-ring, plastic collar, o-ring, plastic collar, coned collar. washer curved upwards.

    To remove the chamber from the old shock I clamped the shock sideways in a small vice then used a lever under the locating tab. To refit I held the shock vertically then thumped the shock onto a block of wood a few times. Refitting the clamp around the dust protectors on the rears can be fiddly.

    Last time I removed the inner front guards expecting easier access but decided at the time not to do so again due to excessive time removing headlights, wheel-arch flares etc for very little, if any, benefit. However under 2 of the 3 front top nuts is a stepped bracket that makes accessing the inner nut quite difficult, but perhaps easier with the inner guard removed. On the first shock change in 2010 I had not refitted the bracket under the inner nut, instead hooking the bracket on the stud over the top of the nut and only using the more accessible nut to clamp the bracket. This greatly improves access to the inner nut. I use a ratchet ring spanner to access the nuts.
    MY21.5 L405 D350 Vogue SE with 19s. Produce LLAMS for LR/RR, Jeep GC/Dodge Ram
    VK2HFG and APRS W1 digi, RTK base station using LoRa

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    Thanks Greame, I have some Koni FSDs that I bought for my D3 and then didn't fit due to the bad reports. I bought them from the UK so didn't bother trying to return them. I will get some seal kits for when I install them.
    My D4 shocks are getting a little wallowy so I'm thinking I'll put the FSD's on and see how they go. Once the deteriate I'll replace them with the latest D4 shocks.
    Fuji white RRS L494 AB Gone
    2023 Ford Ranga

  5. #15
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    My understanding is that the Konis may or may not fail prematurely depending on usage and extra weight on the vehicle rather than wear out quickly so you might get a good run from them.
    MY21.5 L405 D350 Vogue SE with 19s. Produce LLAMS for LR/RR, Jeep GC/Dodge Ram
    VK2HFG and APRS W1 digi, RTK base station using LoRa

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