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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Nerk View Post
    That is the problem. I am not aware of a hydraulic jack that will fit under the chassis when the car is on the bump stops and has sufficient extension to lift a wheel off the ground. I reckon it will always be a two jack solution.
    That is easily fixed - drive flat tyre onto spare tyre or a rock or log. Then use hydraulic jack as the D3/D4 jack is a death trap!

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    I believe the 4 tonne 2 stage jack from SCA is a good option.
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    Smile Trolley jack altrnative

    I have bought a 1.7 ton low starting point ( 90mm ) trolley jack and a 600mm x 300mm x 5mm piece of ply wood. The jack fits under the "A" arms of the suspension and lifts the D4 easily, it needs to have a 90mm start height in order to fit under the front when the tyre is flat, the plywood is needed when off road. The jack is in a blow mould case, it is a bit bulky but is safe to use, the scissor jack is rubbish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Nerk View Post
    I reckon it will always be a two jack solution.
    Couldn't agree more. I don't know why there's such a desire for a one Jack solution. I now carry two jacks as documented here. You can get the small Jack under the car when it's on its bump stops, and the larger one will take it up to full height.
    Yes you need to swap Jacks around, but as you do, you can re-just angles to keep all the loads verticle, and also when at full height you can place the second Jack under the axle as a second support.

    Using two jacks in this way has just got to be safer that one Jack alone. I'm not going for the super tall Merc Sprinter. Too precarious. I'lLstick with my two Jack solution thanks.

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    Most scissor jacks are described as an emergency item in the car handbook , and they have to conform with Au ADR,s . This then leaves the use of them up to the individual who should use it accordingly , and be aware of their situation in doing so . This by no means says that a faulty part can not make the streets , but I find it hard believe that all these failures as described here and on other sites is the result of faulty jacks .

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    Complain to LRA...they really need to be moving on this. The more written complaints the harder it is to do nothing...

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    Our D4 jack failed the first time it was used on a flat concrete driveway. LRA (Brisbane) swapped it out straight away.

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    ACCC - national surveillance program

    This may be of interest to D3/D4 owners. The ACCC is running a national surveillance program on the vehicle jacks. You can have look at what is involved here. https://www.productsafety.gov.au/con.../itemId/974838 ( you may have to copy and paste to your browser )
    A part of the planned program includes randomly sourcing vehicle jacks, and testing them. Anyone spare a jack to send to them ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADMIRAL View Post
    This may be of interest to D3/D4 owners. The ACCC is running a national surveillance program on the vehicle jacks. You can have look at what is involved here. https://www.productsafety.gov.au/con.../itemId/974838 ( you may have to copy and paste to your browser )
    A part of the planned program includes randomly sourcing vehicle jacks, and testing them. Anyone spare a jack to send to them ?
    I do, only used once.

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    Mine too!

    Don't know if I'd even bother seeing LRA about it if all they are going to do is replace it with the same piece of manure.
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