Thread: LandRover build quality

Originally Posted by Melbourne Park

Check the extra cost of running a 200 series due to its high fuel use. The 200 diesel is efficient when towing over 3 tonne. But otherwise, its fuel use is huge. The lowest fuel record I found on a 200 series was a country (Seymour) 200 series, with 46k on it, a couple of years old. It only had 13.6 litres per 100 k. Around town, their figures are far worse. Do the numbers - 200s cost a huge amount to run in fuel.

A local that I know added a bulbar, larger diameter wheels, roof rack, rear wheel carrier etc etc etc to his 200 series. He is flat out getting 18 Lt per 100 Klm's. Not too good for a modern day turbo diesel..........


Cheers, Craig

Originally Posted by Disco4SE

A local that I know added a bulbar, larger diameter wheels, roof rack, rear wheel carrier etc etc etc to his 200 series. He is flat out getting 18 Lt per 100 Klm's. Not too good for a modern day turbo diesel..........


Cheers, Craig

And if you go easy on them to get fuel economy ... that's bad for them!! Same too with a Land Rover I presume.

Originally Posted by scarry

The "best anti-accident avoidance technology" is educating the nut behind the wheel

Absolutely! But as we get older, such aids help. If one has a physical issue too, such aids help.

But perhaps too, the nut behind the wheel also effects reliability?

I changed the oil at 13k ... and it cost over $300! Ouch ... but if I treat it like a Toyo, maybe I'll be luckier with the reliability issues.

I've heard too that the tyre wear is high because people forget about the huge weight ... same too with the power steering pump - its so easy to turn the wheel when the vehicle is stationary, but with all that weight, doing so puts a lot of stress on that system IMO.

Running too high tyre pressures off road - IMO - would increase a lot of loads onto the suspension components ...

I wonder too about cracking windscreens - its a fairly vertical screen. Do d3s/D4s suffer from such damage more than other 4WDs?

Originally Posted by Disco4SE

A local that I know added a bulbar, larger diameter wheels, roof rack, rear wheel carrier etc etc etc to his 200 series. He is flat out getting 18 Lt per 100 Klm's. Not too good for a modern day turbo diesel..........


Cheers, Craig

You might tell him to try dropping down a gear when on the highway ... while using top gear can improve fuel consumption, if there is a load, then in a 200 its worth trying putting it in 5th.

Originally Posted by Melbourne Park

You might tell him to try dropping down a gear when on the highway ... while using top gear can improve fuel consumption, if there is a load, then in a 200 its worth trying putting it in 5th.

I remember when the 200's first come out, all the owners where whinging that the auto didn't shift into 6th until 130km/h. Not sure if Toyota patched the software to change that?

Originally Posted by shanegtr

I remember when the 200's first come out, all the owners where whinging that the auto didn't shift into 6th until 130km/h. Not sure if Toyota patched the software to change that?

They did.

But the threads show that for towing, the 200 often achieves better fuel economy in 5th. And the big diesel in the 200's main feature is its lower maximum torque. In theory I think an 8 speed would make up for that, but I have not checked the gearing ratios.

One thing I do not like about the D4, is that I don't know what gear I am in. I wish the dashboard told me. I have to change gears in order to find out... In the D4, having the instant fuel readings is interesting ... it would be more fun if the auto showed what gear I was in ... I guess from the speed and the tachometer readout. Then I flick down a gear and up again ...

Originally Posted by scarry

Thats it,they had to,to better the opposition.

I had a few td5 d2's,the difference is amazing.

Pity they haven't done this to the Deefer range as well.

Puma Defenders seem pretty reliable.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Puma Defenders seem pretty reliable.

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The D4 range of vehicles are extremely complicated,and very reliable.

The Puma is also reliable,it is a pretty simple type of vehicle,but still has ongoing issues that have been in the Defender range for years.
And other issues such as output shafts,etc.