Thread: Price vs Age - D3 or D4?

Originally Posted by loanrangie

I wouldnt buy a petrol vehicle with more than 200k on the clock unless it was dirt cheap or i plan on an engine replacement , there are always exceptions.

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Yeah thats my general opinion too. Are the petrols the same as in the ford falcon? Only asking as the diesels are the same
as the territory.

Originally Posted by letherm

I think it depends upon the sort of driving the car has done. Taxis do phenomenal kilometres but they are running all day and night so the engine isn't subjected to the short trip syndrome that a lot of city cars get and they seem to last a very long time indeed.

Martin

Who knows! Im guessing it would be a typical suburban/hwy mixture.

If its basically a Ford motor I wouldnt have too many qualms as they are everywhere.

Cheers,

Dan

A modern well built petrol lasts well. We are not taking lazy nautrually aspirated diesels of yesteryear that were considered just run in at 300,000 k. Modern diesels have more problems and are not long life minimal maintenance motors. The petrol v6 drives well and sounds good. Test drive it and see what you like but dont let anyone tell you that diesels are more reliable and will last twice as long.
Cheers

Hi Ozscott,
I'm with you, I have had far more problems with my V6 LR diesels engines than I have ever had with my petrol D3 with 210,000 klms on it. I didn't get it dirt cheap however I did get a bargain. With the money I saved buying a petrol D3 I can run my petrol for four years with the delta between the diesel cost, economy, Diesel V petrol and still be ahead, and that isn't counting the money I would save on repairs to the diesels I have had in the past.
I doubt I would buy another LR 2.7 V6, I don't make the same comment about the 3.0 diesel engine which I believe is a step change between it and the 2.7. Diesel engine repairs are never cheap, ask a Toyota owner when they have to replace te injectors.......... Oh what a feeling.

Thanks ozscott and Nomad9.

Nomad, what sort of economy are you getting from the petrol? Based on the advertised economy figures I would get 4-6 years of "free" fuel compared to the diesel.

Also, how does the V8 compare with the V6 for economy and maintenance costs? I've always wanted a V8...

Cheers,

Dan

I can't speak for the V6 but with the V8 it depends on the type of driving and how heavy is your right foot. When I first got my V8 I had as high as 24l/100km on one tank. I did enjoy putting the boot in. My last 2000km I have averaged 15l/100km which is mainly commuting in 60-80kmp/h zones. On a road trip I can get 11.5l/100km sitting on 110kmp/h for hours on end. This is better than my 2.2 Defender was. A full set of plugs is about $200 on Ebay but they are supposed to last 80000 km. You can buy a full service kit for about $100 on Ebay and then 8 litres of oil. The expensive bit to service is the transmission.This is the same for all engines though. The fluid can cost up to $100 a litre. It can be had for about $40 a litre. If it hasn't been modded a steel pan and filter is $400. Just a filter and gasket is $150. Depends on use but you will probably want to service the transmission every 100000 km. Another expensive item is the handbrake. I think mine might be on it's last legs. I think a kit is about $2000. I guess the only other cost in the short term is brake pads. I think $300 should cover it. Remember with fuel the V8 drinks Premium. Not sure about the V6.

Which petrol engines are you refering to?

4.0L V6 = Ford Cologne
3.0L V6 supercharged = Jag AJ126
4.4L V8 = Jag AJ41
5.0L V8 = Jag AJ133

They are all very different and have their own advantages/disadvantages.

One thing is they are all tuned to run a little rich since this is better for harsh climates/conditions, for example heavy towing. So the fuel consumption isn't that great.

Presumably if he says d3 he means 4.0 v6 or 4.4 v8.

Cheers

Thanks Carl thats exactly what I wanted to know!

Originally Posted by ozscott

Presumably if he says d3 he means 4.0 v6 or 4.4 v8.

Yep, thanks cambo the two that scott said are the ones im interested in. If the economy is similar and I find a good one I'm inclined to go for the extra power and that v8 sound! (On paper the economy is roughly the same, but the real world is generally different)

From what I can see their both pretty decent motors, though finding bits at a wreckers may not be the easiest (though I suppose all the LR motors are like that)

Anyone got any economy numbers on the V6?

Cheers

Dan