Getting second spare wheel on & off roof rack

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Originally Posted by XDrive

Why not carry one spare wheel and one spare tyre carcass. A tyre carcass can then be stored easily on the roof rack. Not too much weight on the roof rack and easy to get on and off. Most towns can handle putting a tyre on a rim and even a lot of farm stations can do the same. You could always do it yourself with a little practice.

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Originally Posted by madden

Good place to fit one or two jerry cans in the carcass on the roof.

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Agreed and I have considered that option. But for me, the second spare is an already mounted wheel (original 19") or buy another carcass. Plus I am thinking of situations where it is a long way between towns or farms. Admittedly that would be pretty remote trips but with having the second complete wheel ready to go, I think I might as well take it.

Taking only the carcass is definitely a better arrangement for roof rack load but a full wheel sees you up and going again quicker.

A carcass would solve my issue with lack of upper body strength :) and if that's what I already had, I'd just take the carcass but I think I'll stick with the full wheel.

Cheers,
Scott

Fixed this problem years back. We have an extendable ladder that retracts to around 50mm high and tough as nails. Not cheap but big quality aluminium and we use it to put the amorphous panels on the roof of our Ultimate camper as well. But with the D4 a rear ladder is the next and hopefully last item on our fittest and that will resolve access to our Rhino mesh roof platform on which we put the second spare, three JC in a tub and ratchet strapped down and a few other items in a space case

Rob

Hi LRD414,


I am not a fan of rear wheel carriers (each to his own). When I am heading out 'on the track' I have a Rhino Platform on which I carry my second spare. I install a small WARN XT15 winch to the Drivers side of the platform and a Rhino ladder to the opposite side of the platform. This ladder sits about mid way along the platform and butts up against the rear wheel (tyre) so it sits proud from the body of the D4. I lean the second spare against the ladder run the winch rope across the roof rack and down the ladder and hook it to the spare wheel, hit the button and up the wheel goes using the ladder as the runner and guiding it by hand. Easy Peasy!! A little bit of setting up time but no physical lifting required. Once the wheel is on the platform I can manoeuvre it into its travelling position with a little bit of pushing and shoving. I have a travel cover made for the winch to protect it from the weather and the controls plug in when required. I take power for the winch from the Andersen Plug at the rear of the D4. Hope this explains how I get the spare up top with a little thought a bit of loot and b-all effort on my back.

Or put a tube in it, pumped to low pressure....keeps the dust/rain out and maintains it's shape, makes it easier to seal onto the rim.

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Originally Posted by eddy

Or put a tube in it, pumped to low pressure....keeps the dust/rain out and maintains it's shape, makes it easier to seal onto the rim.

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Good idea. Do they have tubes for 19" types. Probably does not have to be that big for this purpose but good if they do.

Thanks all.


Richard

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Originally Posted by wbowner

Good idea. Do they have tubes for 19" types. Probably does not have to be that big for this purpose but good if they do.

Thanks all.

Richard

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Never seen one, largest I've found is 17". With regards to carrying a carcass, how are you proposing to change the tyres over in the bush? Not easy to find tyre levers/ plyers that are suitable for a 19" alloy.

Cheers

Gordon

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Originally Posted by gghaggis

Never seen one, largest I've found is 17". With regards to carrying a carcass, how are you proposing to change the tyres over in the bush? Not easy to find tyre levers/ plyers that are suitable for a 19" alloy.

Cheers

Gordon

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Gordon,
trying to find or get a 19" tyre in the bush would be difficult either way. Having the tyre would at least save me that grief.

If out on my own I do have a set of R&R Beadbrakers set up for 19" rims. I have not used it on those, only 17" and that was in my garage. The LR tyres are supposed to be very difficult hence my earlier statement that I am not sure if I could do it.

So in summary - having the second spare tyre is better than not having it, just not perfect. I suppose I could by another rim, if I could find a cheap one.

Alternative I should go buy 18" rims from a nice bloke from WA. That may happen next time around as am getting other mods happening at the moment. Mind you even with 18" having a second spare is good I reckon and the same issues apply but may be not as bad as the stupid 19"

Richard

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Originally Posted by strydes

This:







Open boot lid, drop tailgate, put the boot lid back down and stand on tailgate. If you're reasonably tall this will get you quite high up with good access to put things on the rack and tie it all down.



Ladder would be handy to get up on there, but this is manageable, especially with a pioneer platform which doesn't have sides to contend with when putting the heavy spare up there.

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This worked very well on my trip last year too. Got a lot of practice!

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Originally Posted by wbowner

Gordon,

trying to find or get a 19" tyre in the bush would be difficult either way. Having the tyre would at least save me that grief.



If out on my own I do have a set of R&R Beadbrakers set up for 19" rims. I have not used it on those, only 17" and that was in my garage. The LR tyres are supposed to be very difficult hence my earlier statement that I am not sure if I could do it.



So in summary - having the second spare tyre is better than not having it, just not perfect. I suppose I could by another rim, if I could find a cheap one.



Alternative I should go buy 18" rims from a nice bloke from WA. That may happen next time around as am getting other mods happening at the moment. Mind you even with 18" having a second spare is good I reckon and the same issues apply but may be not as bad as the stupid 19"



Richard

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What if you get 2 flats in one day? Also a pain taking drawers out ( if you have them ) to lower the under car spare. Be careful too winching the lifter back up, was lucky that it broke in Sydney of all places - thought I could travel with it up and the tyre from there in the back on the way till the tyre depot. Costly little mistake!

Hi LRD414
You have said.


But for me, the second spare is an already mounted wheel (original 19") or buy another carcass"

I see you are running 4X 18 GOE with D697's...........assuming you have 2 X punctures....can you run ( without any issues)) an original 19 inch alongside 3X 18 inch GOE rims

Did i miss something here !!!!!:wasntme:

Sam