Absolutely Terry.Quote:
Originally Posted by TerryO
Which is why I drive a Disco! [emoji12][emoji23]
Absolutely Terry.Quote:
Originally Posted by TerryO
Which is why I drive a Disco! [emoji12][emoji23]
Unfortunately and I do mean unfortunately given some of the various YouTube videos of the new Defender being tested and compared to other 4x4’s off road the topic of this thread might be just as relevant as for the old Defenders.
Even more so since they essentially share the same suspension and the new 110 is close to the D3/4 wheelbase.Quote:
Originally Posted by TerryO
A traditional Defender with a rear locker is much better off road than a D3/4/5 or new Defender.
Yes and a twin locked D3/D4 with LLAMS will be better again [thumbsupbig]. The point is once you start modifying vehicles all comparison bets are off so a locked Defender is not a valid comparison.
No. Not even in the same class. There is nothing you can do to one of those Discos to make them beyond average off road. Of course I actually have experience off reading past the limits on all of them so what do I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by 101RRS
Well that is your opinion - even if it is crap [bigrolf]
Had them both off road,with no mods except tyres,and 40mm lift on Deefer.E diff,D4.
In some situations,the D4 will leave the Defender for dead.
In other situations,the Deefer will leave the D4 for dead.
How do i know?
Both in my sig have been same place,same time.
The Traction control is set up differently in the two vehicles,and that makes a huge difference,although the later Puma did have an updated TC system,probably software,which was better,i believe?
But they are both very capable off roaders.
I agree - the point is if you start modifiying the vehicles then you are comparing the mods not the base vehicle.
I think a standard of the show room floor late model Puma Defender will be better offroad in most conditions than unmodified late model Discos - but once modifications, like lockers start to be installed all bets are off as it comes down to the mods.
Garry
Having watched a few videos of the new Defender off-road, i think it would be interesting to compare a late model D4 and new Defender. On paper they should be pretty much the same with maybe a slight edge to Defender as it has newer tech. But, from what i have seen so far either people don't know how to drive them or the D4 is potentially more capable.
Surely it has to be people don't know how to drive them off road (this is true of most modern LR's). Which is ironic as terrain response was designed to simplify and enhance vehicle capability. In reality it does the opposite.