Which is better Off Road a D3/4 or a late model Defender? ... Puma 110

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Originally Posted by dullbird

There was a post put in the defender section by a D4 owner regarding the T shirt that has come available i think it said something like even defender drivers need a hero and it had a disco on the front.

Perhaps there wasn't enough bites [emoji6]

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Lou, IIRC that poster was encouraged to try harder, so he has. ;)

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Salsa

Defender

Bone rattlingly uncomfortable in almost any off-road situation

Only good for midgets under 5'8" who weigh less than 85kg's

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Hmm, buggered if I know why I find it comfortable to sit in and drive it for hours on end considering my inseam is something like 37" ?

And 'bone rattling uncomfortable' off road ?
Seriously ?
I really do think the springs are too stiff but that's easily fixed.
Anyone that's driven a late eighties 110 and then a Tdi on is disappointed with the ride, the old 110's ride like an old RRC, nice and soft but the new ones aren't bad and much better than the opposition and not bone rattlingly uncomfortable.

Methinks it's teaspoon of cement time. :D

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Side mirrors that should never have passed a road safety test - can't see out of them at speeds of more than 10kms per hour due to vibrations

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I've read this by various people a few times over the years.

Ever heard of tyre balancing people ? :D

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Worst of all though, LR have continued to promote the off-road heritage of the product whilst continually weakening the components and by definition, it's go anywhere capabilities.

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Unfortunately true, as brought up already in this thread. :(

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Originally Posted by scarry

Hard to find a Deefer without all that stuff hanging off it.:o

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I've got two.

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Salsa

The problem with most of the responses i've actually bothered reading is that they are really only a defence of their own preferences.

If you want the best cross-ver vehicle for on-road, off-road, touring and serious stuff, you won't find a better vehicle than the RRS/D3/D4

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Pffftttt.

I guess we should be holding a wake,Defenders are now extinct,you cant have a new one off the production line.
Until they shift the plant to India and start building them for third world countries:wasntme::wasntme::wasntme::wasntme::wasn tme:
Andrew

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

I've got two.

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You missed the rest of the post;)

I cant wait to purchase a Discovery, I'm a discovery driver at heart.

I will probably buy one in a couple of years when i sell my rare defender for a motza!!! [emoji39]

Actually i dont think i will sell my defender i will probably just buy a secondhand disco as the resale drops fairly quickly because everyone has one :p

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Originally Posted by rick130

Hmm, buggered if I know why I find it comfortable to sit in and drive it for hours on end considering my inseam is something like 37" ?

I'm 6foot 100kg and I love cuddling up to the B pillar. There's no better driving position than a Defender. Get some Mulgo seat rails for $80 if you're worried.


And 'bone rattling uncomfortable' off road ?
Seriously ?

Agreed. This is Rubbish. Bone rattling is anything with leaf springs.

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Older Defenders are noisy, yes. But Pumas are perfectly quiet enough, have a great stereo and decent aircon. Love it.

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Originally Posted by scarry

You missed the rest of the post;)

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Nah, I didn't. :cool:

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Originally Posted by dullbird

I cant wait to purchase a Discovery, I'm a discovery driver at heart.

I will probably buy one in a couple of years when i sell my rare defender for a motza!!! [emoji39]

Actually i dont think i will sell my defender i will probably just buy a secondhand disco as the resale drops fairly quickly because everyone has one :p

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There was a motoring article not that long ago saying Range Rovers and Discoveries had an excellent resale value due to being a premium brand,sadly Defenders wernt mentioned in the same article.
Andrew