Which is better Off Road a D3/4 or a late model Defender? ... Puma 110

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2nd February 2016, 09:57 PM
frantic

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Originally Posted by TerryO

A D4 doesn't need much at all, but if you think having a off road comparison would truly show each vehicles capability's with one of them on highway tyres then I guess you don't want a true comparison at all.
No, but your post increased D4 tyre size by 10%. Then you disallow a defender from doing the same which makes it an unfair comparison.
To match, or in their opinion better a stock puma offroad a D4 needs:

3000 of wheels ................. Yes to buy Gordon's 18's
2500-3500 of tyres ............. Nope, plenty of good off road 18" tyres for much less
Suspension lift ................... Nope, in case you had not noticed it comes std.
Smaller brakes .................. Nope, Gordon's 18's fit std brakes problem is in another of YOUR posts you speak of "several owners " who have swapped their larger D4 callipers to fit smaller D3 ones and 17 inch wheels,,,, didn't you? That would by your own admission requirements an???:D
Engineering report .............. Nope, Gordon's wheels don't need it.
And don't forget
A Heat gun to fit rubber. :D .. God only knows what your on about. ...

To get disco 3/4 to run at a higher height on the air suspension you can fit a bit that fools the system, but I know Nada about that tomfoolery... More centre clearance, but less articulation.
If you fit the plus 10% tyres to a D4 they rub on plastic, which other D3/4 owners have reshaped with a heat gun.
To fit 10% larger tyres in nsw you need an engineer report.
That has zip to do with how a D4 works.;)
2nd February 2016, 10:02 PM
LandyAndy

Quote:

Originally Posted by frantic

To get disco 3/4 to run at a higher height on the air suspension you can fit a bit that fools the system, but I know Nada about that tomfoolery... More centre clearance, but less articulation.
If you fit the plus 10% tyres to a D4 they rub on plastic, which other D3/4 owners have reshaped with a heat gun.
To fit 10% larger tyres in nsw you need an engineer report.
That has zip to do with how a D4 works.;)

99% of the posts in this thread have been tounge in cheek taking the **** out of each side.
Why are you posting on **** you admit to knowing Nada about?????
Andrew
2nd February 2016, 11:14 PM
Stuart02

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1nando

Ive never owned a disco, i only see them everywhere doing the school run in the eastern suburbs of sydney and as a result dont consider them a serious off road vehicle.

Sooooo a serious off road vehicle can't be good at anything else. The Disco starts to look a whole lot better price proposition if you don't need a /whole other vehicle/ for everything else!!!
3rd February 2016, 05:59 AM
SimmAus

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Originally Posted by Stuart02

Sooooo a serious off road vehicle can't be good at anything else. The Disco starts to look a whole lot better price proposition if you don't need a /whole other vehicle/ for everything else!!!

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3rd February 2016, 08:59 AM
Stuart02

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Originally Posted by komaterpillar

*OP starts a thread with a very controversial subject matter
*sooks and berates other posters who voice their opinion + back it up with evidence, if this opinion or evidence differs from his own
*wondering why I renewed my subscription a couple of days ago

It's good fun though - I've seriously never laughed so much at a thread on this forum!
3rd February 2016, 09:55 AM
dullbird

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Originally Posted by LandyAndy

99% of the posts in this thread have been tounge in cheek taking the **** out of each side.

Why are you posting on **** you admit to knowing Nada about?????

Andrew

So is what he just wrote not correct?
3rd February 2016, 10:45 AM
strangy

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Originally Posted by TerryO

.... So me old mate even after all of this discussion you guys still don't have any clue how a late model Disco works do you?

I must admit I too am confounded as to the workings of a Disco.
I read somewhere (Wikipedia I think) that programmers of the software for the Disco had integrated "Biometric Recognition" capabilities into the system.
This allowed the vehicle to determine if the person attempting to use it was the lawful/correct owner before allowing the vehicle to start and also recalled typically driven routes, phone numbers driver preferences etc.

LR found the system worked very well but was forced to turn off a number of the biometric features following complaints from a small few owners.
Investigations found that those who had complained had been correctly scanned and confirmed as the rightful owner, however, driver preferences would only provide maps to poo farms, hay sheds and constantly provided notifications for nearby beard conventions.

The majority of vehicle owners had no complaints, with driver preferences reliably defaulting to maps for school runs, hairdressers, cafes, and bingo halls.
Notifications and full voice assisted instructions for nearby fanta pants conventions were well received.

Only 2 actual faults with the system were genuinely found through diagnostics download which were the reset in the settings menu
One owner was unable to start the vehicle until at least 3 or more inches of facial hair were detected. Being a woman made this all the more difficult.
The other incident was determined to be owner error - the owner was attempting to wear denim jeans which the vehicle default setting allowed on the first instance and intuitively provided maps/directions to a boutique.
On the second attempt the owner was unable to operate the vehicle until such time as tight pastel chinos were donned.
3rd February 2016, 11:11 AM
gghaggis

Quote:

Originally Posted by frantic

To get disco 3/4 to run at a higher height on the air suspension you can fit a bit that fools the system, but I know Nada about that tomfoolery... More centre clearance, but less articulation.
If you fit the plus 10% tyres to a D4 they rub on plastic, which other D3/4 owners have reshaped with a heat gun.
To fit 10% larger tyres in nsw you need an engineer report.
That has zip to do with how a D4 works.;)

No, the OP said the D4 running under 32". That's nowhere near 10%. The closest equivalent would be a D4 on 285/60R18 and a Defender on 33's. No report required for either.

Cheers

Gordon
3rd February 2016, 11:36 AM
AndyG

Land Rover Defender (off-) road trip: Birmingham to Kabul

Apart from the Journo getting it wrong again in the title, when you read this do you think:
OH my God i wish i could do that, or
OH my God no carpet or sat nav.

That's what separates Defender buyers and Disco buyers. And may you all fight the good fight against the heathen Asian things. ;)
3rd February 2016, 12:08 PM
TerryO

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Originally Posted by strangy

I must admit I too am confounded as to the workings of a Disco.

Only 2 actual faults with the system were genuinely found through diagnostics download which were the reset in the settings menu
One owner was unable to start the vehicle until at least 3 or more inches of facial hair were detected. Being a woman made this all the more difficult.
The other incident was determined to be owner error - the owner was attempting to wear denim jeans which the vehicle default setting allowed on the first instance and intuitively provided maps/directions to a boutique.
On the second attempt the owner was unable to operate the vehicle until such time as tight pastel chinos were donned.

The only Aulro member, and I use the term loosely, that wears pastel chinos is Rick130. ... :eek:

So is the number one Defender defender a closest wannabe D4 owner? ... after reading this I suspect so. ... :angel:

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