Which is better Off Road a D3/4 or a late model Defender? ... Puma 110

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Originally Posted by ozscott

It should be a good bit if kit Celtoid...not without early problems but they should have sorted them....the contract would be worth enough to get them right for our conditions.

Cheers

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I haven't read a whole lot about them but I get the impression from what I have read that they are a bit like the Deefer (original concept) in a lot of ways both good and bad.


It's a pretty old and proven design I believe but have the ability to be moded a lot in both modern and old style ways. Just like the original Deefer Military models there would have been design changes at the factory level that would be unavailable to the normal market.


You may have read about the MB PR fiasco when they took a bunch of the new $150K Civi G-Wagons out to the back of beyond in Australia ... they also had one Mil Spec vehicle. I think all of the Civi ones broke and the Military vehicle was flawless.


I imagine we aren't the only country buying them.

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Originally Posted by chuck

DEPI in Vic are also buying them as apparently they are overloading their cruisers with winches being removed.
DEPI officers are not happy as they need winches to get them out.

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Maybe they should buy D4's :D :wasntme:
Wasn't there a commercial version of the Disco in the early days, Telstra for example. And reading g an earlier post SA is speccing something similar, umm a three DoorD4 van, would cross an interesting market segment an would sit near Defender prices.

There is a so called commercial D4 sold in the UK, I have no idea what the differences are, if any.

Commercials have no rear seats and the rear Windows covered/blacked out.

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Originally Posted by bacicat

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And, for all you comfort lovers out there - go drive a 101 and then tell me a Defender is basic...:p
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When I saw my Defender in a car yard and spoke to the salesman, I was amused by his first comment which was something along the lines of the Defender driving like a truck.

I think he understood why that didn't worry me when I pointed out that I had driven there in a Series III LWB.
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Originally Posted by AndyG

Maybe they should buy D4's :D :wasntme:
Wasn't there a commercial version of the Disco in the early days, Telstra for example. And reading g an earlier post SA is speccing something similar, umm a three DoorD4 van, would cross an interesting market segment an would sit near Defender prices.

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Police in the UK started using D4s years ago. I found that surprising. Although you'd be surprised how few (% wise) non JLR 4WD vehicles you see in the UK, I just thought the cost of a D4 would be prohibitive. Then again, they are far more competitively priced over there. Don't mean to be bad to the Police but it also surprised me that the ones I looked at were in normal trim .... Read....leather seats, etc.

They used D3's from memory also as did special forces for urban work in V8 form. Defender of course is the mostly widely used by police, fire etc.

Cheers

British parliament are shuffled around in V8 D4s iirc.

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Yes. Faster and so much nicer than the rattler.

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Originally Posted by ozscott

They used D3's from memory also as did special forces for urban work in V8 form. Defender of course is the mostly widely used by police, fire etc.

Cheers

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Yeah, they'll be sweating on the new Deefer not being a flop. Imagine the Services and Military driving G-Wagons .... there would be a riot. :o