Thread: Which is better Off Road a D3/4 or a late model Defender? ... Puma 110

I went up Ladder track today in my stock D4 along with my sons Defender 90 which is stock except for bigger tyres (255 85 16 BFG KM2's).

I would rate the rack as difficult and we both got up with out recovery.

I think the D4 was more stable in that at one stage the 90 was on two wheels.

I did incur scratches on the rims & at one stage was in super extended mode.

Both very capable vehicles.

Might have to invest in some GOE rims & wider tyres to keep the rims away from the rocks.

No photos as we were busy trying to get up the track.

No mate. The 90 was just showing you it COULD do it on 2 wheels.

Thought I'd add some more fuel to the fire with my latest experience in my 130. We did a trip on Sunday and I managed to find the outside limits of where my Defender would go and I am confident that the D3 would have made it up the hill on the same track. The biggest difference was that the traction control on the 130 was not up to the task on a loose rutted climb where the D3 with an automatic transmission, factory rear diff lock and more advanced traction control would have done the climb. Tyres were not a consideration as the 130 has MTRs on it and I only ever had ATs on the D3
I found that the longer pulse time in braking and releasing the wheels caused traction to be lost as soon as it was gained.
TC isn't as good as on SWMBO's wrangler either

Off to my friendly aftermarket supplier for a rear diff lock for the 130........

Regards,
Tote

The Beast is alive again!

Originally Posted by Tote

Thought I'd add some more fuel to the fire with my latest experience in my 130. We did a trip on Sunday and I managed to find the outside limits of where my Defender would go and I am confident that the D3 would have made it up the hill on the same track. The biggest difference was that the traction control on the 130 was not up to the task on a loose rutted climb where the D3 with an automatic transmission, factory rear diff lock and more advanced traction control would have done the climb. Tyres were not a consideration as the 130 has MTRs on it and I only ever had ATs on the D3
I found that the longer pulse time in braking and releasing the wheels caused traction to be lost as soon as it was gained.
TC isn't as good as on SWMBO's wrangler either

Off to my friendly aftermarket supplier for a rear diff lock for the 130........

Regards,
Tote

is that a late model, did not think tc was on 130 until sep15 build

November 2015 Build 130

Regards,
Tote

Try twin lockers and then report back. Best of both worlds...wheel travel and traction.

Cheers

I see the latest Defender is being advertised
It looks a bit more modern.
Andrew

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