Thread: TDV6 - SDV6 3.0L Power

Hi All,


Long time lurker first time poster, thanks for the interesting reading so far!


I was hoping this is the right place for some light on a SD vs TD question - I know there are some differences in equipment but am really curious to see if the SD with a 6 speed is better than the TD with the newer gearbox?


Am looking at second hand 2011/12 SE/HSE's vs a 2013+ TD.


Many thanks,
Sam

Hey fellas, I'm new on here and this topic is of great interest to me.
I have just purchased my first Land Rover a MY16.5 TDV6 Graphite, I made the purchase with every intention up getting it at least as powerful as an SDV6. I can't have a vehicle that is actually made to produce more power left in a lower state of tune.
I was under the impression that I could easily just upload the SDV6 tune but that may not be the case. I'm also confident that a tune if done correctly won't risk causing damage to the engine.
I'm keen to also upgrade the exhaust which made me think of getting a Roo Systems exhaust and tune package, it comes with a Genie stainless exhaust system.
I would love to do a dpf delete add I'm worried about it causing issues with extended low range work. It doesn't seem like there I'd a dpf delete kit available, has anyone on here done this? Also are people blocking the egr circuit?

What are people doing service interval wise? There is no way I'll be going 26k kms between oil changes particularly with only a 5.9l refill. I'm thinking that I will do 10k kms oil and filter changes, what oil is eveyone using? Surely with this engine family having been around for a good while in many models that the guru's have worked out what oil works best for engine life.

Thanks in advance, I know having such a great forum and so many knowledgeable people on here will add greatly to my ownership experience. I can't wait to get the beast on Friday.

Cheers

[What are people doing service interval wise? There is no way I'll be going 26k kms between oil changes particularly with only a 5.9l refill. I'm thinking that I will do 10k kms oil and filter changes, what oil is eveyone using? Surely with this engine family having been around for a good while in many models that the guru's have worked out what oil works best for engine life.]

Mine is a 2012 TDV8 Vogue Luxury, I get mine serviced religiously every 6 months or 10,000km, whichever comes first (almost always 6 months, rarely do more than 6,000-7,000km in that time) and never regret it.
Can't remember which oil, it's whatever the manual specifies, done by a specialist Jaguar Land Rover independent.
Doing a fair bit of unsealed kilometres I'd rather spend the $600-odd every six months for peace of mind, than stick to the LRA schedule of once a year (or whatever it is - can't remember, but longer than 6 months.)
Over-servicing is cheaper than under-servicing in my humble opinion.

You must use exactly the oil that is specified. There are posts around on engine damage such as spun crankshaft bearings that are often blamed on using different oil to what is specified.

Oil analysis shows my oil is within spec at 24k intervals...

A bit of a stickybeak in the engine with a camera shows no sign of sludge build up etc.

Unless really giving it a hard time anywhere from 12-20k intervals should be ok.

Thanks fellas, I know you can't stray far from what is specified with these engines but as an example I called a LR specialist workshop and they said they use Hi-tec 5w/40 when I think a 5w/30 is specified.
I think 6 month 10k intervals is what I'm likely to do. I'll do the intermediate services myself and the annual ones either at the dealer or a specialist workshop.

Originally Posted by Berger

I was under the impression that I could easily just upload the SDV6 tune but that may not be the case.

Not a simple ECU upload with D4s for recent model years.
Due to encryption yet to be cracked, the ECU has to be physically opened and the map modified. Consider warranty implications carefully.

Originally Posted by Berger

I'm keen to also upgrade the exhaust which made me think of getting a Roo Systems exhaust and tune package

Roo Systems exhaust has been done & mentioned on here.

Originally Posted by Berger

I would love to do a dpf delete add I'm worried about it causing issues with extended low range work. It doesn't seem like there I'd a dpf delete kit available, has anyone on here done this?

No dpf installed since (I think) 2010

Originally Posted by Berger

I know you can't stray far from what is specified with these engines but as an example I called a LR specialist workshop and they said they use Hi-tec 5w/40 when I think a 5w/30 is specified.

This is poor advice. Suggest you do some more research and this forum is excellent for that.
As a start:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-disco...v6-2010-a.html
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-disco...vice-oils.html

Cheers,
Scott

Originally Posted by Berger

Hey fellas, I'm new on here and this topic is of great interest to me.
I have just purchased my first Land Rover a MY16.5 TDV6 Graphite, I made the purchase with every intention up getting it at least as powerful as an SDV6. I can't have a vehicle that is actually made to produce more power left in a lower state of tune.
I was under the impression that I could easily just upload the SDV6 tune but that may not be the case. I'm also confident that a tune if done correctly won't risk causing damage to the engine.
I'm keen to also upgrade the exhaust which made me think of getting a Roo Systems exhaust and tune package, it comes with a Genie stainless exhaust system.
I would love to do a dpf delete add I'm worried about it causing issues with extended low range work. It doesn't seem like there I'd a dpf delete kit available, has anyone on here done this? Also are people blocking the egr circuit?

What are people doing service interval wise? There is no way I'll be going 26k kms between oil changes particularly with only a 5.9l refill. I'm thinking that I will do 10k kms oil and filter changes, what oil is eveyone using? Surely with this engine family having been around for a good while in many models that the guru's have worked out what oil works best for engine life.

Thanks in advance, I know having such a great forum and so many knowledgeable people on here will add greatly to my ownership experience. I can't wait to get the beast on Friday.

Cheers

My Bro has just bought a SD 3.0 D4 6 speeder.I should be catching up with him in the next few weeks.Will see how it goes compared to my TDV6 8 speed.I did have a SDV6 loaner that was brand new last service,it did feel significantly stronger than mine,also it seemed to give 8th gear at 1000rpm where mine wont,it made the instant fuel numbers at 70 to 80kmh look very impressive,and it happily held 8th.

With servicing,Ive done the full service at 12 month intervals,15000km each time.Synthetic diesel oil is good for LOTS of km,you can safely run it longer than the service interval,not that I am.
Andrew