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You'd think it was obvious, would't you...? But when the initial receipt said "1 Ford Engine" I was already stuffed... With the second receipt not saying "Ford" but the engine type/model/displacement etc, I had no problems...

Originally Posted by winaje

had the vehicle inspected and the number recorded from the plate on top of the head, and the new number entered into the system.

When I did an engine swap in a car a few years back, the inspector didn't want to know about the "easy to find" engine number plate bolted to the head, as that is easy to swap from one vehicle to another - he wanted to find the number stamped on the block, which was in an impossible place to read it with the turbo and exhaust in the way (reason for the plate on the head no doubt). He ended up deciding after maybe 30 minutes of stuffing around that the last 4 digits matched the plate, so was good enough for him, but told me I was "very lucky I was nice to him".

Originally Posted by Grentarc

When I did an engine swap in a car a few years back, the inspector didn't want to know about the "easy to find" engine number plate bolted to the head, as that is easy to swap from one vehicle to another - he wanted to find the number stamped on the block, which was in an impossible place to read it with the turbo and exhaust in the way (reason for the plate on the head no doubt). He ended up deciding after maybe 30 minutes of stuffing around that the last 4 digits matched the plate, so was good enough for him, but told me I was "very lucky I was nice to him".

Technically while the guy was an arse, he is right.

When I do an engine swap, regardless of if the number can be read or not, I supply the customer with documentation covering the following:
*Pic of engine number.
*engine number on invoice.
*location of engine number.
*In the case of a D3/RRS provide the information from the manufacturer that states the engine number cant be read once installed in the vehicle.

Generally supplying all of the above tends to allow even the biggest arse to ok it all.

Regards
Daz

Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

Technically while the guy was an arse, he is right.

I know he was right, as swapping a tag is quite easy.
My supporting document for the engine that went in was registration papers in my name and the previous vehicles details, so luckily wasn't a hand written receipt or he may have asked me to take the turbo and exhaust off!

[QUOTE=DazzaTD5;2492944]Basically any change in spec from say euro 3 to euro 4 etc etc on any engine regardless if thats a Land Rover, Jeep whatever, you will find changes to the basic electrical, computer management and ancillary mechanical components. this also goes for engines in the same spec, such as euro 3 but from another type of vehicle such as the 2.7lt TDV6 used in Land Rover D3 / Ford Territory or the 2.8lt VM used in Jeep JK Wrangler / jeep KK Cherokee / Holden Colorado.

I see this as a bit of a given but understand people asking the question.


While you'd obviously want a later engine with lower KM's, are there any major considerations from swapping something like a 2014 Territory motor into an older model (2007) LR?
Could still be the cheapest option for a tired/worn motor given the territory motor is half the cost of the LR product

I had this done earlier in the year, $3500 for the engine with 10,000 km $4000 for the install. The accessories (alternator, starter motor and air con) are not compatible. It also requires resetting the ecu as they are tuned differently. The territory diesel ⛽ has the engine set to boost fuel on acceleration to reduce lag. Done by Hardy Automotive in Geelong. They did an excellent job.

Originally Posted by Maharba

I had this done earlier in the year, $3500 for the engine with 10,000 km $4000 for the install. The accessories (alternator, starter motor and air con) are not compatible. It also requires resetting the ecu as they are tuned differently. The territory diesel ⛽ has the engine set to boost fuel on acceleration to reduce lag. Done by Hardy Automotive in Geelong. They did an excellent job.

So you're the one who got the motor I was looking at but delayed because of financing. Glad it got sorted out well for you. I'm confused about the ECU reset requirement though, mine definitely didn't need that.

Engine adaptives values reset, Will. Supposed to be done after any major replacement.