All the time or not?

**Disco-tastic** · 26th April 2016, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by Nicky

Of course on a slope it makes sense to use it. Now why did your EPB fail?

From what i can tell mis-adjusted shoes, compounded by a few 4wd trips with some water holes.

ive only had the car for 6 months, and wasnt really aware of the EPB mishaps until the module jammed.

I suppose what im trying to say is if you keep your brake shoes adjusted you should be fine to use it whenever you like. The extra 30mins to adjust during a service seems like a good idea to me.

Cheers

Dan

Tombie · 26th April 2016, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by Nicky

OK my real question is wether we should use the EPB routinely or only on steeper slopes?

It's a Handbrake.

You should use it..

Leaving a vehicle to hold against a small pin in the Auto isn't a great idea in any vehicle..

**Celtoid** · 26th April 2016, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by IndusD4

Sounds like applying the handbrake automatically is a feature on the later models, my 2011 model doesn't do that.

It might be a UK feature, as I believe driving instructors teach you to pull the handbrake on when stopping at a traffic light and put the car in neutral. Which is probably why the lights go from red to amber before going green giving you a few seconds to get ready for take off.

Ron

Just as a side, I so wish Australia went down that road rather than the US model. It would make traffic flow so much easier.

**Nicky** · 26th April 2016, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by Tombie

It's a Handbrake.

You should use it..

Leaving a vehicle to hold against a small pin in the Auto isn't a great idea in any vehicle..

The vehicle settles after shutdown and must be moving against the pin before the EPB comes on. So on a flat surface there is no benefit applying it.

Tombie · 26th April 2016, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Nicky

The vehicle settles after shutdown and must be moving against the pin before the EPB comes on. So on a flat surface there is no benefit applying it.

If you saw the size of the pin I doubt you'd trust it to hold your vehicle..

And the vehicle settles on the drum brakes not the box..

Tombie · 26th April 2016, 05:48 PM

Oh yes. That and it's law!!

**Nicky** · 26th April 2016, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Tombie

If you saw the size of the pin I doubt you'd trust it to hold your vehicle..

And the vehicle settles on the drum brakes not the box..

OK so who can post a description of how the auto transmission works in park, surely the "pin" is employed before the EBP is engaged.
To avoid this do we select "N" apply the EPB, shut down and allow the car to select "P"

**Disco-tastic** · 26th April 2016, 07:32 PM

I change to N, apply EPB, release foot brake to let the brake take up the load, then in park, then shutdown. No load on transmission.

Cheers

Dan

Tombie · 26th April 2016, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by Nicky

OK so who can post a description of how the auto transmission works in park, surely the "pin" is employed before the EBP is engaged.
To avoid this do we select "N" apply the EPB, shut down and allow the car to select "P"

Or just apply it while still in D...

**LandyAndy** · 26th April 2016, 07:44 PM

Im going to try and do what Disco Tastic does.I really dont like that surge and the pressure it must put on the park brake pin in the gearbox,I have actually tried to do it his way,too used to driving manual vehicles,bad habits!!!!
I had a play with mine.
It seems no auto park brake,well couldnt provoke it in a couple of quick attempts,it was raining.
However I left it in neutral,no park brake and shut it down.Got a warming trans not in neutral,opened the door and the ecu put the trans in park,I saw the lights on the rotary dial move to indicate so

.Locked it and it was in park when I unlocked it.
As I say no auto park brake,no P on the dash either to indicate the system has gone to sleep.
It was raining,so I didnt persevere to see if it was a time out thing,will try and remember to do it another time.
Andrew

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