So very true... Believe me this was fun...Quote:
Originally Posted by MR LR
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So very true... Believe me this was fun...Quote:
Originally Posted by MR LR
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I think you'd be surprised actually. 2014 Amarok departure angle 23.6 deg, D4 at standard height (185 mm clearance cf 192 for Amarok) 26.7 degQuote:
Originally Posted by MR LR
Overhang =/= departure angle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart02
But i'm not sure what you're getting at?
There's a ratio between overhang and wheelbase, and it's not too crash hot on Land Rovers (save for a 90).
I did miss out on the Mitch hitch, it was already sold :-(
I saw the recovery hitch on gumtree, I did enquire about it, it was fitted 3 months ago to his disco 3 by British off road, now he's selling the vehicle.
So, are the differences enough between the Mitch hitch and recovery brand hitch to warrant waiting to find a Mitch hitch? Or will the Recovery do what I need it to? I understand there was controversy over intellectual property but I think when one is buying second hand, that's a bit irrelevant. I'm more interested in tin Tacks design and functionality... And safety!
Feedback from two owners of the "Recovery Hitch", both positive and negative, in this thread:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/...overy-4-a.html
Regards,
Scott
I have the "Recovery Hitch" on my D3. I bought it last year, when the Mitchell Bros webshop had disappeared (and remained gone for some time).
I'm not a heavy duty tow driver, but it has done everything I've needed it to so far (most recently dragging a dead Ford F truck around). I noticed a small issue with fit when I attached it, but I've had no rattles or any other noise from it.
It's all about distance past the rear axle. Not wheel base. Could do the trig for you but departure angle is typically defined by the tow point and is the most easily obtainable proxy for that distance.Quote:
Originally Posted by MR LR
If it were anything to do with wheel base, how is a ute (longer) better than a disco, but a 90 also better? The 90 is good cos the tow point is practically on the rear axle. A few inches in the wheel base is much less significant % wise than changes past the back axle.
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Nope, you still don't get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart02
We're going to have to agree to disagree but your point about Discos and RRSs having the "biggest arses in the 4WD world" is simply false.Quote:
Originally Posted by MR LR
I'm not going to agree to disagree, because you're wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart02
Overhang and wheelbase are directly related when it comes to towing. The longer the wheelbase and the shorter the overhang, the better, you can go as far as to determine a ratio between the two.
Departure angle can be altered by ride height, or even just the height of the rear bumper bar. Overhang is the horizontal distance from the centre of the rear axle to the rearmost extremity (usually the tow bar). Disco's and RR's have a much larger overhang than most other 4WD's, and historically a shorter wheelbase (although they are starting to catch up).
You're correct in saying that smaller overhang is better. But to neglect wheelbase is cutting out 3/4 of the picture. This is why a Defender 130 is a superior tow vehicle to a 110, even though they have the same rear overhang.
As far as I'm concerned, anything that increases overhang (the distance from the tow point to the rear axle) on these vehicles is bad design.