Thread: How much does my D4 weigh

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Ball weight adds to payload - Unless you have a Land Rover Discovery - Caravaners Forum

Originally Posted by Milton477

Found it:

Ball weight adds to payload - Unless you have a Land Rover Discovery - Caravaners Forum

Well there you go.......I'll be damned

It would be an interesting thread on a caravan forum.........

Originally Posted by Tombie

Agree. However the D4 is one of the vehicles where the Ball weigh does NOT need to be subtracted from the GVM

(If this has recently changed I will be greatly surprised)

Only requirement of ANY towing vehicle is to not exceed axle weights.

Tombie,
I may be reading it wrong but that is what it looked like to me. I think there is another thread on the forum which discusses it as well.

I will try and dig the doco out.

I went from what I read online and not my handbook, will go and check that.

I hope your are right

Richard

Richard. One can only imagine how mine sits....

Will have to get it to the weigh bridge this week...

Tombie
Have a read of page 78 of the manual

Under towing.

It says the ball weight is 150kg with a max of 250kg except in Australia were it can be 350kg if the gvm is reduced

Or that is how I read it.

Please show me I am wrong because I really want to be 😩


Richard

Not looking promising there.. Looks like 100kg is gone for you with a 250kg down weight..

Don't feel too bad, LC fare much worse...

Originally Posted by Milton477

Found it:
Ball weight adds to payload - Unless you have a Land Rover Discovery - Caravaners Forum

I have had a read of the above and just got lost

In the end it seems to be semantics

The handbook says the gvw should be reduced if you go beyond 150kg tow ball weight but some people say you can't alter the gvw or gvm and what it really means is that the payload is reduced even there is no mention of that in the handbook.

It appears to me either definition has the same result. Ie if you want a tow ball weight greater than 150kg and the vehicle weighs the 3240 which is the gvw then you have to reduce the weight accordingly.

I must admit explaining by saying the gvw is fixed at 3240 and that any tow ball weight greater than 150kg needs to come out of the payload may sound better.

I suspect the reason why LR explained it that way was it is just mathematics

Payload = gvw - kerb weight or something like that. Reducing gvw gives the result they want

May be not technically correct but it is LR after all.

Richard

While I never ended up doing it I found at least one engineer here in NSW who would, after passing the various tests, increase the GVM of a D3/4. The cost was from memory about $1800. The bloke who does it is/was a member of this forum and lives in Orange.

The increase we discussed was in the range of approximately 250 kg. This was before I knew that you could buy heavy duty CV's and axles which should make a even bigger difference.

This doesn't allow you to tow more than 3.5 ton but it does allow you fit all the usual extra accessories many people want plus have a reasonable ball weight for towing a large van.

So guys, no need to leave the cook behind if you get the GVM increased. ...