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  1. 1st August 2016, 03:45 PM #1
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    Bullbar weighing front down?

    Hi there. Had the new 2016 OL bar with VRS winch attached to my 2016 TDV6 D4. Very happy with it although it has completely changed the way the car handles. Wondering if anyone has adjusted the amount of air in the front bags to level the car back up again/ stiffen? Hoping this woukd fix the increased roll a bullbar and winch seem to add to what was a lovely travelling car previously?
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    The vehicle will automatically self level when you add weight, but more air pressure in the air spring will not stiffen the ride up.

    A few people have mentioned that adding the bull bar changes the handling dynamics of the vehicle, but it is something you will have to live with if you want the front bar.
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    Add a rear bar to balance it out

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    I have just recently had an ARB bar fitted and wouldn't say that it has "completely changed the way the car handles" although I have not fitted a winch yet!
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    If the winch has steel rope then replace it with synthetic to halve the winch weight.
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    The front tyres may need a little extra air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    If the winch has steel rope then replace it with synthetic to halve the winch weight.
    The winch has synthetic rope but will certainly add some air. How much would you suggest? Equal it to the back?
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    I added 2-3 psi to the front when the rope was steel but not with synthetic. The bar was alloy so perhaps a little lighter than your's. I had LT 17" tyres too.

    Oops - higher pressures with the winch with steel rope on the D2 but used synthetic from the outset with the D4.
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    I agree, makes a noticeable difference to the handling, I messed with tyre pressures a little to compensate but didn't feel any improvement.
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    I havent got a winch as yet,I did think my almost 2 year old D4 with 28000km drove nicer than the brand new HSE with 500km I had as a loaner last week.Thinking about it,the bullbar and extra battery may have improved the ride feel.The OEM tyres are quieter,BUT the thing had front roof rack extensions plus roof bars,they were noisy in the wind that was howling on friday.
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