Thread: Bullbar weighing front down?

Originally Posted by DrOsteo

The winch has synthetic rope but will certainly add some air. How much would you suggest? Equal it to the back?

Just air the front up a couple of PSI..

Tyre pressure isn't going to remove much - and once you get use to the additional mass up front you won't notice it.

As for Air suspension - pressure doesn't change - only volume.... And it Always levels out (unless broken )

As I said, give it a week and you won't even notice it.

Originally Posted by Tombie

As for Air suspension - pressure doesn't change - only volume.... And it Always levels out (unless broken )

Well, sort of....
Pressure is determined by vehicle weight (heavier vehicle requires more air pressure in spring to be at X height, lighter vehicle requires less air pressure for same height) - which doesn't affect spring rate, Volume of air determines height and does affect spring rate, due to spring design.

Originally Posted by Grentarc

The vehicle will automatically self level when you add weight, but more air pressure in the air spring will not stiffen the ride up.

A few people have mentioned that adding the bull bar changes the handling dynamics of the vehicle, but it is something you will have to live with if you want the front bar.

Yes I agree. It cannot be good to hang 80 odd kilos way out in front of the axles. The vehicle copes, ( i have a steel bullbar- no winch ) but it certainly makes you think how it would affect the ultimate handling, if for example you had to swerve hard. Would it function as well as a non bullbar vehicle ? It would be pretty difficult to make a case for it. Putting weight on the extremities, won't assist the handling of a vehicle or a trailer/van.

We get to drive back to back both modified and standard Disco's, so can compare how they both drive and handle.

My D3 which is a HSE with a glass roof starts life more weighty than the other models but then also add the weight of a ARB bulbar and winch, dual battery, spotties and compressor all fitted up front. The vehicle also has steel sliders and out back a Dolium single rear wheel carrier so it weighs considerably more than standard, and would because of the accessories have a serious front weight bias compared to standard.

Our D4, has all the extras of HSE including glass roof, so again it's a heavy bit of gear standard, but other than a Llams kit and 20" A/T's it is pretty much standard.

My point is the D3 even with all its extra's when it has on the 18" A/T's, rather than the 17" muddies, handles pretty damn good even compared to the D4. Obviously fitting any heavy bolt on accessory's is going to make some sort of a difference but the differences aren't great and both vehicles drive well and it's hard to notice any major difference handling wise between the two, if I am going to drive either hard I always lower the suspension to -20 with the Llams kit which in the twisties makes a real difference over standard.

Which is nicer to drive? Most days in fact I prefer to drive the D3, believe it or not it's early HK logic7 stereo is way better than the later model and more powerful HK Logic7 in the D4.