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    The CD comes with the workshop manual as well as the owners manual.

    I understand where you are coming from and know a diagnostic tool doesn't fix things on their own. However I have had two experiences where me owning a diagnostic tool was quite helpful.

    Firstly there was my almost 6 month quest to get functioning remote fobs.

    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-disco...ml#post2434019

    The dealer was not able to help in any real constructive way.

    Secondly I was able to diagnose that the MAF was not working at all and replace it.

    They are but two occurrences that I can share and there are many threads on the forum of a similar vein.

    However it is up to you to decide what is best for you and they way you decide to tackle the maintenance of you vehicle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    I've seen a "plug" but that's not intended for regular use..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salt grinder View Post
    So, we spend 500 bucks on a diagnostic tool and get a reassuring message that we now know what a certain problem is. That doesn't fix it. But how do we go about fixing a problem if we can't identify/access the parts on the vehicle.
    My D4 started getting the Restricted Performance message more and more frequently whilst still under warranty. Whilst restricted the vehicle was effectively dangerous to drive on the open road. LR wanted to truck the vehicle to the nearest dealer 200 kms away and leave me without a vehicle as their loan vehicle policy meant that I would have to report the fault whilst some distance from home. I read the fault codes and considered the various possibilities for the circumstances surrounding the fault then rang the dealer from where I had bought the vehicle some 6 hours travelling away asking if their service dept could confirm my likely diagnosis from the fault codes, which was a faulty inlet isolation valve rather than a faulty primary turbo actuator or a faulty MAF. A short while later I received a call confirming the likelihood of my diagnosis so I proceeded to remove the valve to clean it, at which time I found that its lever was externally jammed from dirt. All fixed, I was inconvenienced only a little rather than a lot and it saved the cost of hiring another vehicle to which I could not have got without outside assistance anyway. Oh yes, my tool cost $1200 those days.
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    Salt grinder,
    I understand your concern with such a modern technical vehicle.
    Three things I did to help me find out how things work and what is possible;


    No.1 I spent a considerable amount of time trolling through the threads on this forum. A couple of years actually, before I purchased. This forum contains a wealth of experience based knowledge and technical guru's. The 'Search button' is always the first place I go before asking for members help. I may not find what I'm looking for because of wording used etc. but that leads to other interesting reading anyway.
    No.2 Subscribed to Topix for a year. This is full on detailed information specific to your VIN; Workshop Manuals, Wiring Diagrams, Technical Service Bulletins etc. etc.; however all electronic. I saved to OneNote information I thought was relevant and then let the subscription expire as it is quite expensive if your not a workshop. I will subscribe again in the near future. Also helped to have this info available to keep the Dealer workshop in toe!
    No.3 Purchased a diagnostics tool so I could see what was going on as well as other benefits. In my case a IIDTool BT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salt grinder View Post
    So, we spend 500 bucks on a diagnostic tool and get a reassuring message that we now know what a certain problem is. That doesn't fix it. But how do we go about fixing a problem if we can't identify/access the parts on the vehicle. I'm not trying to sound like a smt ...a . . I'm merely trying to access the working parts to better understand this beast.
    A diagnostic tool like that can do many things, it's not just a code reader, although that function can get you out of a jam if the fault is intermittent.

    I am dealing with a suspension compressor failure, and my D4 dropped to the bump stops, and with no compressor to get the car back up, I plumbed in my tyre compressor using a 6mm air line joiner, a length of 6mm air line and a blow gun nozzle, then used my IID Tool to open the suspension valves and pumped it back up. Total cost of parts used was less than $10 - I have since changed the blow gun nozzle to a 6mm push fit air line fitting that screws into my tyre compressor gun.
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    I should add to my post #11 that the diagnostic tool is not a fancy computer gizmo I have because others have them.

    It is an important part of the set of tools I have to work on the vehicle.
    Cheers, Dale
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    It's a multi meter on steroids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milton477 View Post
    It's a multi meter on steroids.
    That's certainly another way of looking at it.
    Cheers, Dale
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