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  1. #251
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grentarc View Post
    That all comes down to pad compound, and a small bit rotor hardness.
    I have found a lot of Japanese steel to be harder than European steel, so that would extend rotor life.
    "To be fair I've never looked at them in depth.
    I do know the latest offerings still have more pedal force needed to stop than Euro gear so my gut feel is Harder metal and harder pad compound (organic not metallic)"

    True,so why use the softer pads and rotors?

    Maybe there is a European rule on pad compounds?

    Harder pads and rotors would definitely reduce service costs,that is if the difference in performance is negligible.

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    Soft compounds etc in colder climates bite better...

    Perhaps they don't do multiple compounds.

    On cold mornings here (2c etc) the Toyotas definitely had poor brake feel and needed a much harder push to pull up.

    Get them wet and they took some energy.

    I've never had this on the Euros...

    Bite on a Euro is far better with a nicer feel to it..


    I'm guessing it's the price we pay...

    Brembo feel even nicer and wear inversely!

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    Thanks for replies,

    I have noticed my D4 doesn't seem to stop any quicker than the loaded Jap work van i drive all day, in the dry.

    Wet is a different story as one has the electronic aids,the other doesn't,although the new models do.

    Feel,i recon they are very similar,the van bites maybe very slightly better.

    The van will do 250 to 300k without needing any work on the brakes.

    Then again it is not an auto,or a 4wd....

    Actually i have just taken one out of service,to be replaced, and has done 280K,brakes never been touched.

    A mate has a European van,does same sort of work as we do,needs brake overhaul every 120K.

    It is much nicer to drive,but running costs are way more.

    Just my observations,and 2cents worth

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    Thanks. Agree... and it seems very different with different operators also.

    My rear rotors and pads are untouched at 101k and will go a bit longer, fronts were changed just because I had slotted and Akebonos sitting here at 30k...

    I run at close to GVM all the time and tow frequently..

    Others who don't tow and it's just the D4 are having brakes at 20-40k intervals - I've never had to do this through necessity on any vehicles excluding my track car!

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    Country cars brakes will last much longer for obvious reasons

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    Quote Originally Posted by discorevy View Post
    Country cars brakes will last much longer for obvious reasons


    I live in a regional City... spoon drains and roundabouts galore, always on the brakes...

    I also tow heavy loads regularly through winding passes etc...

    Agree that highway miles don't chew consumables but I lived in a major city and never suffered excessive brake wear either...

    Mum was worse - brakes smoothly and early, we had to swap her brake pads and have the discs machines yearly as she would glaze them over on her Toyotas...
    Eventually we just had me drive it "Italian style" once a month!

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    Likewise , I'll usually get over 100 000k out of brakes , if I was only getting 20 - 40 000 out of a set I'd be having a good look at my driving style, exceptions to this would be those that live and drive a lot on wet pindan tracks, when in Broome we used to look after the cape leveque Postie's troopie , when it was wet he'd get through a set of rear pads every couple of weeks , and he wasn't known for using brakes . that stuff is very abrasive
    Might be worth a thread to see how many k's people are getting , but there are a lot of variables

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    I am using cooper Zeon Ltz 275/45R29, just two damaged on side. I don't know if it is bad luck or quality issues. Seriously consider to put cooper Ltz 285/50R20, does it on Gordon 's calculation table?
    Gary

    MY15 Discovery 4 White, ARB Summit Bull Bar, Runva 11XP Winch, LLAMS, Icom440, GME 4705 High Gain Antenna, Redarc tow pro elite. 18" GOE Rim & BFG 265/60R18, APT Compressor Guard & Air Tank Guard. Outback Long Range Tank & Spare Wheel Carrier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIS4 View Post
    I am using cooper Zeon Ltz 275/45R29, just two damaged on side. I don't know if it is bad luck or quality issues. Seriously consider to put cooper Ltz 285/50R20, does it on Gordon 's calculation table?


    275/46R20
    Gary

    MY15 Discovery 4 White, ARB Summit Bull Bar, Runva 11XP Winch, LLAMS, Icom440, GME 4705 High Gain Antenna, Redarc tow pro elite. 18" GOE Rim & BFG 265/60R18, APT Compressor Guard & Air Tank Guard. Outback Long Range Tank & Spare Wheel Carrier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIS4 View Post
    275/46R20


    Try again 18 inch 3.0 wheels.18 inch 3.0 wheels.

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