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    Still hunting

    I suspect I will have to talk to the guy to find out what he did. What he did may be correct,

    In saying that keep in mind I have had a new 12pin brake socket installed. He may have just disconnected the round wires and ran them to the new plug - which is OK as my round plug is very difficult to get at.

    If he did that then I can't understand why he had to alter anything in the left panel (as shown in my original pic).

    Another question what is the function of the blue wire from the brake controller.

    Richard

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    Hi Richard
    This wasn't done by the new auto electrician where you're getting the van?
    I'd be disappointed if it was.
    Ron

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    Why do they do this..
    For reliable fitment just make a 12n & 12s to 12 pin adapter... saves tampering with the vehicle AND means pretty much any trailer can then be easily connected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Why do they do this..
    For reliable fitment just make a 12n & 12s to 12 pin adapter... saves tampering with the vehicle AND means pretty much any trailer can then be easily connected.
    To late.

    Richard

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    Quote Originally Posted by LRD414 View Post
    Richard,

    Hard to say for 100% certainty from your photo but the brown wire does look like the wire in the trailer loom that is supposed to be cut and terminated as part of the standard brake controller install.
    This wiring diagram shows it but the image resolution is poor.

    From this thread:
    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-disco...brakes-56.html

    The brown wire should be insulated once cut so as not to short on anything.

    My guess is the blue wire is your brake signal feed for the trailer, in which case it would be connected to the brown wire heading towards the plug.

    So the poorly terminated brown wire would be heading back towards the front of the vehicle.

    Hope that makes sense.

    Scott
    Trying to sort out my confusion still

    In the diagram above the pin5 indicates it is RH tail
    But isn't that the electric brakes which makes more sense which is what Scott said. ��

    Richard
    Last edited by wbowner; 9th October 2016 at 09:40 AM. Reason: Woke up

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    Quote Originally Posted by wbowner View Post
    In the diagram above the pin5 indicates it is RH tail
    But isn't that the electric brakes which makes more sense which is what Scott said.
    Pin 5 is the RH tail light in Europe. They have left & right as separate wires.
    In Australia pin 5 is the trailer brakes.
    This is why you see the brown wire to pin 5 is cut and the blue wire from the brake controller is spliced to it.

    Note that the diagram shown here is a modified version of the factory wiring diagram with the brake controller and its wires added, so this is how it all should look when finished. Except yours has been further changed due to the 12 pin plug.

    Regards,
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    Quote Originally Posted by LRD414 View Post
    Pin 5 is the RH tail light in Europe. They have left & right as separate wires.
    In Australia pin 5 is the trailer brakes.
    This is why you see the brown wire to pin 5 is cut and the blue wire from the brake controller is spliced to it.

    Note that the diagram shown here is a modified version of the factory wiring diagram with the brake controller and its wires added, so this is how it all should look when finished. Except yours has been further changed due to the 12 pin plug.

    Regards,
    Scott
    Scott,
    Thanks for all the info. My son gave me a hand to do some testing today and have an idea what has happened. It is not a pretty picture.

    First
    I believe the new 12 pin plug works as using the P3 i can send power to pin 5. I just remembered I have one more test to do.
    Also the old round plug plug mostly works as well with a few bad exceptions.



    It appears he has tapped into the the wires for the new plug just near between the old round plug and left hand side

    The problems.

    1. The loose brown wire in my picture is not connected to anything (it used to go to pin 5 as per the wiring diagram)
    2. He has cut the light blue fog light cable and connected it to the dark blue from the brake controller. This has left a few very interesting issues
    When I put power via the brake controller it now goes to pin 5 on the new 12 pin plug and pin2 on the old 7 pin round

    Nothing goes to PIN 5 of the old 5 pin round

    When he cut the old light blue fog cable he left one end exposed as you can see in the bottom left hand corner of my pic. Well if I turn on my rear fog light the wire is live
    3. The wiring around where he taped in is just tapped. I would have liked some of that plastic conduit as that area cops a lot water, stones etc.

    My son has stuck tape over the dodgy areas to highlight the problem

    One more question: is there a problem have both the 7 pin and 12 pin plugs active.??

    Richard

    A bit of a clarification. I said the loose brown wire is not connected to anything, not entirely true as it is connected to pin 5 on the 7 pin round but has not power source as mentioned above.

    RIchard

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