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    Quote Originally Posted by Smcconnell View Post
    It's always important to take into account motives of people's actions when making your assessments.

    Yes, it's frustrating that you (and others) are experiencing delays. I would be frustrated, too. But it's important to distinguish between a delay that's caused by a crisis in a man's life and a delay that's caused by sloppy business practice. They're not the same thing.

    Gordon has served this forum very well for a number of years; his reputation is not that of a bad businessman.

    I don't think he woke up one morning and decided to rip people off. The guy has serious issues in his life and needs time and space to sort them out. His issues are bigger than your missing wheels, so give him a break.

    Yes, it would be nice if he could continue running his business without a hiccup whilst handling his personal issues, but right now it seems that he can't. It's not a sign that he has no personal values. It's not a sign that he has become a bad businessman. It's simply a sign that he is human and has his limitations. As do all of us.

    Last year I went through some issues with my wife. I also run my own business and usually my attitude towards work is like that of a bull charging at the gates. I make **** happen. I work hard and play hard. But when I had problems with The One, work was the last thing on my mind. As a result, I ****ed people off and, after it was all sorted, had decent-sized fires that I had to put out. And I suspect that Gordon's issues are much, much bigger than the ones I experienced.

    I think the issue is exacerbated by the fact that Gordon is choosing to not disclose much about what's really going on in his life. His "strong and silent" approach, although understandable, is adding fuel to the fire. I believe that if he openly shared with us what he is going though, the forum's reaction here would be very different. People would rally around him and support him as a community. After all, that's what we are, aren't we? Surely this is bigger than the endless conversations about squeaking tailgates and debates about the best wheel/tyre size combination for a D4 (which, for the record, is 265/60/18).

    With that in mind, I urge everyone to exercise some restraint in criticising Gordon. Let's raise above the bickering and look at the situation in context. Which really is - the Gordon's issues are interfering with our desire to play with our toys. Come on - right now people all around the world are having much bigger problems than that.


    Steven
    Some very good points there.

    I know absolutely nothing about what has gone on,nor have i had anything to do with GOE.

    But i have run a business for over 26yrs.

    What i would have done,if i could have, is refunded the money as quickly as possible.

    One thing i have learnt over the years,is people don't take to kindly if they have paid and not received something,whatever it is.

    Once the money has been returned,the business owner is in the clear.

    Just my 2cents worth

    Edit, one thing i forgot to say is communication.Communication with the customer is also critical.

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    I am not a business person but I find it extremely frustrating when someone who has promised delivery of a product in a certain time frame will not answer emails or his phone. If he has the time to continue to run his training activities he can sit down and write an email to every person who he has taken an order from and explain exactly what is happening or offer their money back. It really is that simple. It is called manners and common courtesy. If you don't posses these skills in this great country then don't go into business. I am a soldier and I marched today with thousands of others who have gone off to serve their country so that we can live in a fair and just society. I don't believe taking people's money and then ignoring them is fair and just. As I said, I am not a businessman but I do have a very solid set of morals and values. They have been tested many times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carlschmid2002 View Post
    I am not a business person but I find it extremely frustrating when someone who has promised delivery of a product in a certain time frame will not answer emails or his phone. If he has the time to continue to run his training activities he can sit down and write an email to every person who he has taken an order from and explain exactly what is happening or offer their money back. It really is that simple. It is called manners and common courtesy. If you don't posses these skills in this great country then don't go into business. I am a soldier and I marched today with thousands of others who have gone off to serve their country so that we can live in a fair and just society. I don't believe taking people's money and then ignoring them is fair and just. As I said, I am not a businessman but I do have a very solid set of morals and values. They have been tested many times.

    dude give it a bloody rest ... you've got your money back so why harp on??

    i'm sure others who are affected are sorting things out for themselves so no need for the continuous bashing

    this thread has turned into a witch hunt

    MODERATOR: request deletion of this thread. I am the OP.

    thanks

    Brian

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianElloy View Post
    dude give it a bloody rest ... you've got your money back so why harp on??

    i'm sure others who are affected are sorting things out for themselves so no need for the continuous bashing

    this thread has turned into a witch hunt

    MODERATOR: request deletion of this thread. I am the OP.

    thanks

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    I have got my money back, but there are plenty who haven't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carlschmid2002 View Post
    I am not a business person but I find it extremely frustrating when someone who has promised delivery of a product in a certain time frame will not answer emails or his phone. If he has the time to continue to run his training activities he can sit down and write an email to every person who he has taken an order from and explain exactly what is happening or offer their money back. It really is that simple. It is called manners and common courtesy. If you don't posses these skills in this great country then don't go into business. I am a soldier and I marched today with thousands of others who have gone off to serve their country so that we can live in a fair and just society. I don't believe taking people's money and then ignoring them is fair and just. As I said, I am not a businessman but I do have a very solid set of morals and values. They have been tested many times.
    I hope you had a good ANZAC day.

    Cheers Ean

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    I have now closed this thread.

    There have been some pretty inaccurate statements and some grossly incompetent assumptions posted and it appears to have become a contest over who has the strongest moral compass with little regard for the other parties still involved.

    If you have information that is pertinent and of assistance to any parties that are affected I will open the thread for that information to be posted.

    PM me directly with what you wish to post.

    EVERYONE should be aware that all sales of new goods in Australia are covered by the Australian Consumer Garantee

    Consumer guarantees | ACCC

    If you are not conversant with this legislation or are unable to work out how it affects you, or how you can enact it, I recommend that you seek competent professional legal advice.

    Whilst AULRO.com is doing what it can to assist all parties, there is very little it can do other than recommend you get competent legal advice at this point in time.

    Thank you for your time.
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