My ARB steel Bull Bar has a 1/2 bash plate & a large cross beam + a recovery hook.
2009 D3.
Jonesfam
Hi Gents (and ladies, if there are any),
Do ARB and OL bars protect the car underneath in the same way as a bash plate? In other words, if I get a bull bar, do I still need a bash plate (or does the plate become redundant)?
Steven
My ARB steel Bull Bar has a 1/2 bash plate & a large cross beam + a recovery hook.
2009 D3.
Jonesfam
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						SubscriberNo... bull bars offer protection up to around the front of the sump guard - which is definitely an improvement - but the sump and transmission are where bash plates really come into their own. If you weren't getting a bull bar you'd have the option of/need for bash plates that extend further forward.
Now 2016 D4 HSE 'Leo' and Steve the Triumph Speed Twin
Then 2010 D4 3.0 HSE 'James'
Then 2010 RRS TDV8 'Roger' w traxide DBS, UHF, Cooper Zeons, Superchips remap
Then 2010 D4 TDV6 'Jumbo' w traxide DBS
First love 2002 D2 TD5 'Disco Stu'
From what I understand, the sump and transmission aren't that vulnerable in a D4 (though this is quite subjective - I realise).
I'm mainly concerned about the radiator, etc - it seems that a bull bar would offer a considerable amount of protection to it in an event of hitting a rock, for example?
Does the ARB bar come with 1/2 bash plate as standard, or is that an option?
Steven
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						SubscriberSure - that's a different question. WRT the radiator then yes. And without a guard between the bumper and sump I can tell you the sump guard acts as an impressive mud scoop.
I don't know about relative vulnerability but yes at least the standard sump guard is metal. Also I think the compressor gets relatively more attention as a potential damage point.
Someone (an ARB rep?) will know better than I but I've never seen the lower guard section as an option...
Now 2016 D4 HSE 'Leo' and Steve the Triumph Speed Twin
Then 2010 D4 3.0 HSE 'James'
Then 2010 RRS TDV8 'Roger' w traxide DBS, UHF, Cooper Zeons, Superchips remap
Then 2010 D4 TDV6 'Jumbo' w traxide DBS
First love 2002 D2 TD5 'Disco Stu'
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						SupporterThere's no protection plate on an ECB bull bar. I bent my standard thin metal OEM protection plate up into a cooler of some sort, just in front of the cross member, when I first got the car. Gordon made up a special 6 mm alloy protection plate to replace the standard light metal plate. This has been really good and prevented any more issues in that area. I think that ARB have that covered with their bull bars. The front cross member still gets a bit of a pounding occasionally as that is the lowest point at the front of the car.
Bob
2010 D4 3.0TDV6 SE, ediff, LLAMS, 5 x GOE wheels, LT285/60R18 BFG K02's, GOE Compressor Guard, LR Tank, Mitch Hitch, ECB Bull Bar, Kaymar Rear Bar, Traxide, Safari Snorkel.
2019 Discovery 5 SD6 SE, 20 inch wheels, 275/55R20 Nitto Grappler G2 tyres
To answer your question - a bullbar will offer protection for a front or front-quarter impact but a proper bashplate is designed for under-car protection. I have an ECB alloy 'bar and after clouting a large roo dead centre at speed last year, the excellent protection it offered to lights, radiator, bonnet and light bar - I didn't need to think twice and replaced same under insurance.
The OEM bashplates are at best OK but will buckle if you roll over a rock/stump. I've upgraded all bashplates on my D4 including a tailor-made bash plate to protect the compressor and am pretty confident of minimal damage when getting off-road and particularly water crossings where you are not aware what may be under the surface of the creek/mudhole.
The steering arms on my old D2 were vulnerable to damage so I had an ARB steel bar fitted with a lower extension and it worked a treat. Looked good as well as I had it colour coded to the car.
Cheers,
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