Thread: Electrical artwork for new D4

My surion will be upgrading to Nemesis and removing the light bar. But in that bulletin it says the light has to be below the edge of the bonnet which mine was.

As someone who uses and applies legislation daily at work I'm firmly of the belief there are enough holes in that document for it to be unenforceable.

Should read solution

You beat me to it Tombie.

So you can have led spotlights on your roof but not a led lightbar. Good old WA making things simple.

Originally Posted by loneranger

So you can have led spotlights on your roof but not a led lightbar. Good old WA making things simple.

It sounds like the crap other states have had to sort out.


Under the old ADRs, you can not have one light, there must be two, set out evenly, or words to that effect.


The original solution was to fit a LED light bar and then permanently cover the centre LEDs.


QLD were the first to change their regs to allow for full LED bars, without having to cover the centre LEDs.


This is just the law makers trying to catch up with new technology.

I've always found that at least in WA, these things seem to be up to the interpretation of the individual copper you are dealing with.

A while back (when it was illegal to have ANY forward facing driving roof on the roof), I was pulled over in Kalgoorlie and chatted about the two small forward facing Hella spotlights on the roof rack of my work Prado. While they were talking to me, a well known dark green Falcon ute went past, with a row of very large spotlights mounted on a bar across the roof. When I pointed out this ute to the coppers, they said "so what" - we're dealing with you at the moment. When I then pointed out that the green ute was very well known around town, and belonged to their sergeant (who was driving it at the time) - they had a change of heart and sent me on my way.

I've had a 40 inch Baja Designs Stealth LED bar mounted under the roof rack of the D4 for five years now. This vehicle used to virtually live in Perth when I was working down there, and has done many trips between Perth & Kal, mostly at night. It has also been across to Tassie twice, plus a separate trip over to SA for the annual Land Rover gathering at Melrose a couple of years ago. I have been pulled over many times for random breath tests and a variety of other reasons (yes - including speeding) - and not once have I ever even been questioned about the LED light bar above my head. It simply does not even rate as an issue with the coppers I have dealt with. I also know a few coppers personally around town here - they are all aware of the light bar, and could not care less about it.

Now if I was to use it inappropriately to annoy or to cause unsafe conditions for others, I have no doubt I'd be pinged - but that would be entirely my own fault .................

Originally Posted by drivesafe

It sounds like the crap other states have had to sort out.


Under the old ADRs, you can not have one light, there must be two, set out evenly, or words to that effect.


The original solution was to fit a LED light bar and then permanently cover the centre LEDs.


QLD were the first to change their regs to allow for full LED bars, without having to cover the centre LEDs.


This is just the law makers trying to catch up with new technology.

Looking at the dates they werepublished the driving light exemption was published first and was probably not considered when they published the lightbar exemption.

Originally Posted by BMKal

I've always found that at least in WA, these things seem to be up to the interpretation of the individual copper you are dealing with.

A while back (when it was illegal to have ANY forward facing driving roof on the roof), I was pulled over in Kalgoorlie and chatted about the two small forward facing Hella spotlights on the roof rack of my work Prado. While they were talking to me, a well known dark green Falcon ute went past, with a row of very large spotlights mounted on a bar across the roof. When I pointed out this ute to the coppers, they said "so what" - we're dealing with you at the moment. When I then pointed out that the green ute was very well known around town, and belonged to their sergeant (who was driving it at the time) - they had a change of heart and sent me on my way.

I've had a 40 inch Baja Designs Stealth LED bar mounted under the roof rack of the D4 for five years now. This vehicle used to virtually live in Perth when I was working down there, and has done many trips between Perth & Kal, mostly at night. It has also been across to Tassie twice, plus a separate trip over to SA for the annual Land Rover gathering at Melrose a couple of years ago. I have been pulled over many times for random breath tests and a variety of other reasons (yes - including speeding) - and not once have I ever even been questioned about the LED light bar above my head. It simply does not even rate as an issue with the coppers I have dealt with. I also know a few coppers personally around town here - they are all aware of the light bar, and could not care less about it.

Now if I was to use it inappropriately to annoy or to cause unsafe conditions for others, I have no doubt I'd be pinged - but that would be entirely my own fault .................

I got pinged during the day. Leaving Denham cops went passed. Immediately pulled over and did a u-turn and pulled me over.