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    Maybe I'm stupid - don't answer that but I thought that Llams would allow you to lower the car below access height. It's the main reason I am about to buy one.


    Martin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Must have been a smooth track or you were taking it very easy...

    Even at std height on the rail corridor I was bottoming out..
    No, as I said it was anything but smooth, but it generally wasn't bottoming out at the -20 setting and rode fine. The main thing was that the mudflaps dragged on the ground in some of the woop de doo creek crossings and the loose rocks and they were destroyed on that trip, which was a 4 week trip from Perth to Cape York via GCR and Plenty HWy and back via Mt Isa and the Kimberley.

    The front suspension always bottoms out on sharp cross channels from small wash outs, whether the height is high low or medium, but it was no worse on -20. I usually travel on the Llams medium (which is what I wanted to do) to try to give more travel but I didn't notice that it was any worse on the -20 setting at that time.
    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by letherm View Post
    Maybe I'm stupid - don't answer that but I thought that Llams would allow you to lower the car below access height. It's the main reason I am about to buy one.


    Martin
    Llams "Low" is -20mm in standard form, can be set to -35mm during the calibration routine.
    Access height is about -50mm
    You can use Access Height and Llams Low (in either -20 or -35) together.
    There is also Llams Extra Low which is -50mm that can be used in conjunction with Access Height on a D3 or D4 with pre-MY12 shocks - this is for all intents the bump stops. On MY12+ shocks, the bump stops are taller, which cause this combination to trigger "Extended Mode" as the vehicle thinks it has bottomed out.
    There is a way around this for these vehicles, which is select Llams Low and Access Height, shut the engine and ignition off, then press the mode button. the car will then drop to the bump stops after a few seconds.
    - Justin
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    Quote Originally Posted by letherm View Post
    Maybe I'm stupid - don't answer that but I thought that Llams would allow you to lower the car below access height. It's the main reason I am about to buy one.


    Martin
    It does. When the car is in access height via the switch on the console Llams will lower it further when you switch to -20, in my case pretty much to the bump stops. However, it will rise to the Llams -20 height setting once you start driving. Llams will also lower it by 20 mm if not in access height and that can be maintained at any speed, which is what has been discussed above.

    I lower mine to the bump stops for my 98 year old Mother in Law to be able to get into the car.
    Bob

    2010 D4 3.0TDV6 SE, ediff, LLAMS, 5 x GOE wheels, LT285/60R18 BFG K02's, GOE Compressor Guard, LR Tank, Mitch Hitch, ECB Bull Bar, Kaymar Rear Bar, Traxide, Safari Snorkel.
    2019 Discovery 5 SD6 SE, 20 inch wheels, 275/55R20 Nitto Grappler G2 tyres

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    Sorry that I didn't make it clear that I actually used LLAMS -20mm, but I always thought to be Access Height. Because the LLAMS, I didn't realize I was on -20mm after hundreds of kms freeway driving. The ride was pretty ordinary, then I had leave on the LLAMS green which is -20mm for sometimes now. I think it just reach 2.4m with rooftop tent on it, most of indoor car park will be out of question. I will take it down after Easter long weekend, not only for clearance but the extra 50kg on the roof.

    thanks for sharing!
    Gary

    MY15 Discovery 4 White, ARB Summit Bull Bar, Runva 11XP Winch, LLAMS, Icom440, GME 4705 High Gain Antenna, Redarc tow pro elite. 18" GOE Rim & BFG 265/60R18, APT Compressor Guard & Air Tank Guard. Outback Long Range Tank & Spare Wheel Carrier.

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    Just FYI - I have a late MY11 and it also has the longer bump stops and will raise again if I use -35 and exit height.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Just FYI - I have a late MY11 and it also has the longer bump stops and will raise again if I use -35 and exit height.
    Ahh, I thought you had MY12!
    - Justin
    Selling soon - MY10 D4 3.0 TDV6 SE with E-Diff & LLAMS, 265/65R18 Maxxis Razr A/T
    Moved into MY12 L322 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography
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