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Maybe used D4s will start attracting all the much touted fantastic prices Defenders were supposedly getting. Total crap but may have helped move a few along for some sellers.
I'm still loving mine even after 7 months so won't be selling just yet...
AlanH.
The other thing to consider is that a new D5 with a few bells & whistles will be over $40k more expensive than a used late model D4 so this may keep prices up as well.
I would imagine that the more astute D4 owners that are thinking of getting into the new Discoveries will be waiting until all the teething problems have been ironed out on the new units before they commit.
There isn't anything THAT New on the D5's and the D4 is a very capable truck so I can't see any reason to rush into it.
I see it panning out this way:
D5 will increase sales compared to D4 due to it being a softer looking car with great credentials. Suit the masses more I guess.
(There will still be a fair few D4 owners upgrading to 5.)
D4 off road users waiting for/buying the new Defender.
New Defender increasing sales exponentially from the 20k worldwide annual sales for the die hard off roader where the D1-4 /old Defer left off.
The world will return to normal when this happens🤣
Dave
I'm now thinking of putting a bull bar on the D4. You can't do that with a D5.
There may be some method in their madness. Seems to me LR have divided the Disco mob, with the D5, sorry, AND aimed at Mark's "look at my luxury Land Rover" mob, where it will sell like ecstasy at a rave party, and the harder core tourer market, where it won't. People like those will hang on to their D3/4 a bit longer, when, hey presto, LR will give us another AND ( All New Defender this time ), which I see being the Real Disco replacement, given that it will no longer be the utilitarian thing we all know and lo..li.. darn it, love. I imagine the Defender will slot in nicely as a very capable tourer, with the sort of comfort and performance enjoyed by D4 owners now.
My take on the original question largely mirrors what others have said. There will be plenty of good, unmodified D4s out there as the urban warrior type move up into what is to all intents and purposes a Range Rover, but the demand for them from D2 and D3 owners will keep the prices up for a while yet, as there is really nothing to replace them until the new Defender arrives. If I'm right, then that is when the D4 prices will fall.
That make a whole lot of sense [thumbsupbig]Quote:
Originally Posted by johntins
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Originally Posted by trout1105
Yep,
As long as some of the technology development filters through to the "hard core tourer" alternative in a few years the wait may be worth it.
Meanwhile, my 2010 D4 2.7 will continue to be a realistic tourer for years. A mates 2006 D3 has done all the rough stuff Australia has to offer and continues to motor on in comfort. So for all the D4 tourers there is still a great future.
Autonomous braking, lane assist, smart cruise ect are new and the flavour/trend of the day.Quote:
There isn't anything THAT New on the D5's and the D4 is a very capable truck so I can't see any reason to rush into it.
Such kit is quite desirable on the very long stretches of black top we often need to traverse to get to the locations that make the most of the vehicles 4x4 ability.
AB is apparently not available in the D5 base model.
This kit is (from this month) standard on all VWs and already had been availanlevonnSubaruvand Nazdas, the new $28k Hyundai i30 has it.
So the cheapest D5, forever will be a luxury motor without the most significant new safety feature of its time.
Ditto a 2016/17 D4.
Just like the period of transition where ABS brakes became standard, one doesn't want to be caught out with a used luxury motor that doesn't have the "must have" safety feature available in new cars from other manufacturers that are a similar price to a used D4.
AB kit, Radar, Cameras, large colour display screens are commodity items available to all manufacturers, LR should not be counting on these toys to justify a $20k premium, especially if they want to attract a different demographic to Toorak bankers (location and occupation of the previous owner of my D3:)
Safety sells, especially to soccer mums.
Mjb