Need to restore faith !!

Lucky you guys aren't in the marine game.

D4 tows a offroad van 200kgs under its max weight 18,800kms trouble free and manages to get the last 200ks under its own steam and then does a few days driving before taken into the dealer and is diagnosed with a 12v actuator problem on the turbo. It never blew an engine and left anyone stranded or anything like that. Certainly not unreliable in my eyes.

We are going thru a battle with a major engine company whose $215,000 engine lasted 7 days before a major component failure. Tow job alone was over $50,000 and not counting loss of fishing time. That suppliers 15 other engines have been fine, the fact that the new one failed doesn't make us want to pull the others out and change brands.

Components fail , we all hate it but that's the joys of mechanical parts.

The real story here is about the poor and very questionable fault finding from the dealer. I hope the OP asked for the 2 turbo's back seeing he had to pay for 2 new one's.

Cheers Ean

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Originally Posted by pjgrandad

I would have expected that the Disco would do high k`s ( high 200`s into 300`s) with out too much drama. Anybody share your thoughts, and has anyone got the 3.0 t diesel 8 speed with high k`s without too many dramas.
There are not a lot of options out there for good 3.5 tonne tow wagons.
Cheers
pjgrandad

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From my experience the money starts to flow around 200,000km, as long as you maintain the transmission. If you don't, transmission replacement can be early 100's.

There is no way that the turbos needed replacing in that car. I assume from your post that extended warranty paid for the whole lot so it was not too bad for you. I just hope it wasn't a split plastic inlet manifold after all that work was done for nothing. That is more likely from your symptoms, unless they replaced them as well. I very much doubt that the actuator was the problem but hopefully they are correct and it fixes the problem.

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Originally Posted by Geedublya

Prado can't tow 3.3 tonne.

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Have just upgraded to a 16.5 SDV HSE, from a 2.8L Prado. The Prado would tow our 2400kg AOR Quantum, but in 4th gear, using enormous amounts of fuel. The 6 speed transmission in the newer Prados is rubbish. It will not change into 6th unless you are approaching 100kmh, and lift your right foot, as if you are changing a manual box. It hunts for gears continually, and that’s without towing anything.
The Discovery we just got will tow in 8th gear, up hill and down dale, and sit on the speed limit doing it.
Wonderful car. Was it worth the premium price? You bet.
Chris

oh gawd... not another Land Rover vs Toyota thread again, its as bad as the EV threads [tonguewink][tonguewink]

Actually its amazing that overall motor vehicles are so reliable, regardless of brand and even more so that they all dont burst into flames (unless its a Ford).
The average Jo that complains about their car breaking down at 100K.... thats 2.5 times around the planet (Earth). No other form of transport throughout history has proved to be more reliable than the motor vehicle.

When I read such bull**** as a dealer quoting $16K to change a turbo reminds me that in general, dealers are scumbags (personal opinion).

On average I get far more poorly maintained, broken and butchered vehicles that have only ever been serviced by a dealer. Just money for jam from cashcow customers. (no mention of the brand).

Yep, dealers are the last people I would send a vehicle to! Admittedly in the OP's case, it was under an extended warranty, so not much choice there.
Our nearest local dealer went leg up a few years ago (dunno how, with the rates they used to charge!). Another mob took over the LR dealership. I dropped into their service department one day, to get some info re: the P38A. They did a bit of digging, and humming and harring, then came back and said they didn't have any info on anything "that old" - it's a '99 model!
Apparently, when they took over the dealership, they decided to save money by only buying the software and data access package from LRA for models from 2005 onwards. Unbelievable!

Yeah, dealers don't like servicing old cars. They have their book times and they are way too short for all the things that go wrong when fixing older vehicles. A few years ago I bought a second hand Kawasaki GTR 1000 motorcycle over ten years old from a dealer and rang them up for a service after a few months. They told me they don't service bikes that old and to go down the road to an independent service mob who can charge for all the extra time they need to spend. It was a good outcome but it did surprise me at the time.

Im not servicing some older vehicles now either...😣

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Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

oh gawd... not another Land Rover vs Toyota thread again, its as bad as the EV threads [tonguewink][tonguewink]

Actually its amazing that overall motor vehicles are so reliable, regardless of brand and even more so that they all dont burst into flames (unless its a Ford).
The average Jo that complains about their car breaking down at 100K.... thats 2.5 times around the planet (Earth). No other form of transport throughout history has proved to be more reliable than the motor vehicle.

When I read such bull**** as a dealer quoting $16K to change a turbo reminds me that in general, dealers are scumbags (personal opinion).

On average I get far more poorly maintained, broken and butchered vehicles that have only ever been serviced by a dealer. Just money for jam from cashcow customers. (no mention of the brand).

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The worse workmanship i have ever seen on a vehicle was done by an LR dealer,they give the brand a very bad name.There are a few good ones around,if your lucky to find one,but most are not good at all.

I heard recently from a very good source that there are 5 late model LR's at the local dealer that they can't sort,owners won't give their loan cars back,want a refund for their vehicles.


And as for our work vans,they all go to the Tojo,local dealer,never had an issue.In fact,the four i have at the moment,two have close to 300K on them,never had an issue.They run all day,fully loaded,almost on GVM.

On the "Older" vehicles it is a piece of cake doing a regular service yourself and you don't have to hold a doctorate of Engineering to do the job yourself, Why would you bother to go to a dealership for a simple oil/filter change.
I do agree that many dealerships sting like wounded bulls and "Flim Flam" their customers But luckily for Me my Landrover indi charges less than most other workshops in town and their quoted timeframes and costs have always been "Spot On".
They have also Never done any unnecessary work or replaced any unnecessary parts and I am completely happy with the work they have done for Me.[thumbsupbig]

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On the "Older" vehicles it is a piece of cake doing a regular service yourself and you don't have to hold a doctorate of Engineering to do the job yourself, Why would you bother to go to a dealership for a simple oil/filter change.
I do agree that many dealerships sting like wounded bulls and "Flim Flam" their customers But luckily for Me my Landrover indi charges less than most other workshops in town and their quoted timeframes and costs have always been "Spot On".
They have also Never done any unnecessary work or replaced any unnecessary parts and I am completely happy with the work they have done for Me.[thumbsupbig]

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