not a good idea, a great idea!
This last week had to get an un-jam procedure done for park brake at Land Rover Specialist in town. I raised with him the idea of whether he could run some sort of training session/ day so that I (and others) could learn how to repair or fix common things or tricky things that might immobilise the vehicle especially if travelling remotely. I know I take the caravan across large swathes of Australia as well as the vehicle. I worry about a simple fault causing lots of grief especially if I was in the middle of the Simpson or towing the van accross the Great Central Highway for instance
I realise there is a sticky thread for travelling spares which is a great idea, but I have no idea how to replace a wheel speed sensor for instance in the bush or how to replace a fuel filter or clear specific fault codes that may leave me stuffed in a remote area. I thought it's so much nicer if I could be shown how to do some of these tasks. I used to do virtually everything on my old HJ47 Troopie and could troubleshoot issues in the bush. The D4 is simply daunting by comparison.
Anyway I ran the idea with the local Land Rover Specialist about whether he would be amenible to the idea of him running a training day/s to show anyone interested how to carry out remote area repairs for things that could be an issue when you are well away from a LR service centre and you are on you own.
So firstly, is this a good idea and would people be willing to attend something like this if it was offered? The guy is based in Bathurst NSW so only a couple of hours from Sydney so reasonably central to much of NSW.
Secondly. if the idea is a goer, what type of training/ instruction would be needed? I guess there is simple stuff and complex stuff so if the idea has merit you could run beginner days and advanced days I suppose. Specifically what list of instruction would people think would be helpful? Can we compile a list that would allow us to utilise all the travelling spares? eg Fanbelt?, Hoses, speed sensor, brake light switch, height sensor replacement, etc. I guess for some even learning how to put the vehicle in neutral or release parking brake would be nice to see how to do.
I guess having a list of spares to carry when travelling is good. I would like instruction about how to use and replace those spares when needed in terms of specific tools, methods and procedures.
There are no commitments on anybody at this stage least of all the guy who is the LR expert, however, I have got his approval to sound out this group to see if this kind of thing would be a goer.
I mean I would quite happily pay a couple of hundred dollars for a days instruction about how to do this stuff. However, size of group for a training days is totally up in the air as would be cost to make it viable. There is obviously a trade off between numbers and cost. I'd think that about 10 as a max per group would be the most so everyone can get a close up view of how to do stuff. The LR mechanic specialist suggested that a D3/D4 would be the best to do first if such an idea were viable.
What do others think.
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not a good idea, a great idea!
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A great idea. My wife and I do a bit of caving and those places are sometimes a bit out of the way e.g. Cooleman Plains, Tuglow etc. They are not remote like Central Australia but are still not a place to break down at. So being a bit more knowledgeable about what can go wrong and what one can do to fix it in-field would be excellent. My brother-in-law uses an LR specialist in Bathurst for his 5 LR's. It's probably the same one.
My wife and I would be interested. We have a D4.
MIke
Range Rover Club in Sydney runs these a couple of times a year free to members. Been to many.
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An awesome idea, having just done a big trip into some very remote areas with a low mileage D4 I was a bit nervous about the what ifs.
My mechanic had given the car a complete once over before the trip and said if I had any issues while away to ring him and he would send parts or talk me through stuff which is fantastic but not as good as knowing a few "outs" yourself.
I had no issues and the car was near faultless
Bathurst is a loooong way from Melbourne but it would be worth considering a drive and long weekend away to attend, or if it pans out find a mechanic in Melbourne to run a similar training day
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Need a comms course in satphone and HF radio use, and all the tilt tray companies phone numbers...🤣.
Seriously though sometimes it is only a relatively simple fix, and knowing as much about your car as possible is a good idea, you don't need to be an expert, just a bit of key knowledge of what can stop you and how to work around it would be of huge value.
J
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It is as Eevo says, a GREAT idea, and great minds think alike too
We're off soon in our D4 on a rather large trip which will take us who knows where, but not the big cities.
I've already spoken to my mechanic down here who is very cooperative along these lines to help out, show things and if needs be, do the phone link and send parts thing. There's also a couple of good parts suppliers who can get parts quickly and cheaply to probably anywhere in Aus at the drop of a hat.
Having the right base equipment to start with, like the code reader etc is good, as I guess too a list of fault codes etc, and the manual for the D4 on an iPad or similar. We've got most of this already, but certainly don't have the experience on using any of it. Problem free so far touch wood, although I don't expect there to be to many issues, but as you say, sensors etc can go.
Can't say how many people I've come across just even close to town who don't have a clue on what/where to look to have a go themselves at getting going again.
I think far to many people rely on the likes of the RACV and the Assist programs etc. I guess it's just the way the world is turning.
Many of us here can thank Green Oval Experience/ Gordon German for a strong interest and better understanding of our cars.
The Terrain Response Seminars and driver days are brilliant. Don’t let recent conversations on parts supply lose sight of this brilliant information resource.
Take all the training you can get.
But, if nothing else every D3 / D4 owner should read and have his book.
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I think the book may/would be of great help but you already raise the problem. The book is a "parts supply" issue with GOE and so I am reluctant to part with money and wait 6 months for delivery. But I would happily pay someone good $$$ to copy it for me and send me the copy. PM if interested
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