Thread: My Discovery is ruining my fun.

What he said! No snorkel! Jebus

Paul - Yellow patch was wet in places but only wheel deep and for a looong way so that was ok - and there was a couple of crossings I actually walked that came up to my neck. So as you can guess I didn't cross those.

This was at Blue Lagoon North campgrounds
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Lots of wheel tracks in and out from the week before (school holidays) and brackish water colour so the depth was masked.
Lots of rain a few days earlier caught me out this time - the water level came up to "too deep". Who would have thunked!?
It was fresh-ish water.

It pulled through, although I had one of those "pucker" moments when it lost traction in the deepest part (started to float)
The vehicle had no water enter, although the Landrover passenger seat depth alarm was going off like a frog in a sock! - available here -


It coughed and ran really rough on the climb out and I thought I was toast at that point as she didn't want to get out of the swimming pool. The gods smiling down on me made 2 things happen.
1. Because of the up angle on exit, the water quickly drained from the air inlet pipe to the airbox.
2. The engine was stalling due to no intake air because the bottom of the filter got wet and was sealing the whole shebang. The poorly fitting filter "let go" at one of the edges due to the engine vacuum screaming for air (think orange seal around edge of paper filter tore apart) and this let fresh air (seconds earlier it would have been water) into the engine through the new gap formed by the deformed paper filter and she pulled harder than a schoolboy with his first stick book.

No Snorkel? - correct - no snorkel. "what do I need a snorkel for? - I will never cross a creek that deep to need one".

Mate from South Australia we were camping with took the photo when he arrived at the other side by coming in off the beach - I can still remember his face as I emerged from the creek - he drives a (very) lifted GQ Patrol - I just told him "you do it all the time in a Landrover, don't you?" and popped the bonnet to check the filter.

The rest of the week on the Island was, as you can imagine. boring. Car went everywhere with no issue..... Just like Sean's week.

p.s. my Scratch-it I bought when I got home didn't win anything, but I think I'm the luckiest guy around anyhow!
Matti

Originally Posted by matti4556

No Snorkel? - correct - no snorkel. "what do I need a snorkel for? - I will never cross a creek that deep to need one".

Matti

Matti, how can you say you'll never cross a creek that's deep enough to need a snorkel when you just crossed a creek with the intake below the waterline, lol.

Makes no sense to me, you got lucky here IMO, as you clearly went above the 700mm wading capability LR claim it's capable of. TBH i think it's capable of 900mm without a snorkel, but seeing as you had the intakes underwater, i'd say it was more like 1000mm, and you got lucky.

Either way, $800 for a safari snorkel to protect a $20,000 engine... I'd fit one again, and again, in every 4x4 i ever own now and in the future.

This chick can't drive, but still shows what happens as soon as water gets into that side intake. Goodbye engine. YouTube

Here's a pic of a crossing i did last year with intake below the waterline, main difference being i wasn't even the slightest bit worried, because it has a snorkel....

She failed because she didn’t make a bow wave and thus the intake submerged. If she’d gone at some pace she might have had a fighting chance. Some, maybe not much more, but some.

Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster

She failed because she didn’t make a bow wave and thus the intake submerged. If she’d gone at some pace she might have had a fighting chance. Some, maybe not much more, but some.

Of course, but that's just it, why bother take the risk? It's $800, if you don't want to do water crossings, there's usually other ways around, but why bother taking the risk. Can say my engine didn't cough or splutter on any water crossing i've ever done so can almost guarantee Mat got some water in the intake. It does hit that point where it surges as water sucks the car down, but that doesn't make it cough.

Anyway back on topic. By the sounds of things the 265 65 17s are better in sand than the 285 60s. If end up keeping my D4 (2.7) i'll be trying that size out next, only one big trip left out of my 285s anyway i'd say.

Doesn't mean to say the 285s aren't good in sand, I just get the feeling i have to push mine a bit harder to get the same results.

Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster

She failed because she didn’t make a bow wave and thus the intake submerged. If she’d gone at some pace she might have had a fighting chance. Some, maybe not much more, but some.

And the more experienced people around should have ensured she wasn't the driver. That depth is not something to dump an inexperienced person into.

Mike

Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster

She failed because she didn’t make a bow wave and thus the intake submerged. If she’d gone at some pace she might have had a fighting chance. Some, maybe not much more, but some.

She who hesitates is lost

Originally Posted by Russrobe

Matti, how can you say you'll never cross a creek that's deep enough to need a snorkel when you just crossed a creek with the intake below the waterline, lol.

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It was meant to be a tongue in cheek comment
Matti