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    INSTALLING LLAMS ERROR - D3

    I purchased a llams off a bloke on ebay who said he had never installed it and sold the car.
    thought it could be dodgy - but trusting people I bought it anyway.

    I have just completed installing it and I have followed the installation instructions and now find the car won't do any height adjustment at all and the comes up with a fault and stops all normal TR height adjustment operations
    Steps
    • Disconnected all batteries (waited for HB light to extinguish)
    • I un plugged the CPU as explained in documentation .. # 1 and #4 on the CPU
    • Then Plugged the Loom into the back of the Llams loom and
    • the LLAMS loom plugs back to the CPU .
    • All good and clicked in nicely into all 4 plugs
    • Connected the VGA plug to control box and secured with screws
    • Connected the swivel LED Switch to Control Box and Connected the red 'Mode' switch to the plug in the box (no mention of this in the documentation ? Not sure if this needs to be 'pressed or impressed .. as
    • pressed - it flashes green led on control box and
    • unpressed - it flashed red then green led on the control box
    • or not connected at all under normal circumstances??


    I am intending to remove and plug the normal loom back to the CPU and then await further advice
    If all works back OK in normal TR mode height adjustment then I know I have done something wrong with the installer - or its not operating correctly - I wonder if they can be repaired?

    I am hoping there may be something else I can try ?

    Any hints from the experts will be greatly appreciated..
    Many thanks

    Steve
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    I'm sure Graeme will be along shortly to assist.
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    UPDATE

    I have removed the llams and its all working well back in normal TR low, normal and High - height settings.

    I must say it all seems so straight forward with the installation of the llams

    the plugs are unique (#i wont fit #4 and # 4 wont fit #1) and at either end of The CPU so its hard to mess up unless you used two together as one of the posts identified.

    Also one of the posts also identified the MODE switch settings as:
    If flashing red and Green - click once again to return to green flashing.

    did this got it to flash green only - used screwdriver to connect the 'cal' pins and then went green (no flash for a while )and Tried it all again ... The controller Box did flash red and green when activated - before the TR showed a failure..

    I removed and definitely in Failure mode with the llams installed

    I may have messed something up but I'm starting to feel that I have wasted my money on the purchase - or maybe I should be more optimistic .. I wonder if there are any 'test routines for the loom and controller'

    The side panel and kick panel take a few secs to remove and the llams is easy to re-install as well, so I will try again if something in the way of secret knowledge surfaces.

    Many thanks

    Steve
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    Graeme who makes them will advise. Just sit tight
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    Could you please check the Llams grey plug that has pins rather than sockets to see if there is a red locking tab in the bottom? Early looms that did not have the red locking tab were problematic in that some of the pins on the other grey connector weren't quite long enough to retain contact if the plugs weren't kept tightly together.

    Note that from what you have written you have not followed the calibration procedure, not that it has anything to do with causing faults.

    Edit. What numbers are written on the pcb? eg 2.1.4
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    Thank you for your response Graeme,

    The Box has 2.0.6 written on it and the board has 2.0.3

    I did try to calibrate but as soon as I activated the twist switch it went into error mode.

    Thanks Graeme

    Steve
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    doesn't appear to be any locking tab on the Pinned Grey connector..

    WHen I disconnected it - there was no doubt that the connection was secure the Locking tab was well clicked in and had to be pushed in before any movement was apparent when releasing both connectors from the CPU.

    The other end also clicked in with a noticable click.


    Thanks

    Steve
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    Sorry I meant the board has 2.0.3 but it has some tape and black texta with 2.0.6 on the board as well
    Sorry about that
    Steve
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    Are you sure that the grey Llams connector and the grey LR connector were firmly together? The retaining clip is off-centre which allows the long ends to separate slightly but enough to cause loss of contact which can cause suspension faults immediately the ignition is switched on.

    2.0.6 is the s/w version which ran from late 2012 until late 2014 which apart from not supporting the L494. L405 or the D5 calibration is the same as the current version.
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    Did faults occur if the rotary switch remained in the off position or was disconnected?
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