Thread: Convince me to buy a 2013-14 D4 ... or not

Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster

Eric’s a little OCD in my opinion with his change frequencies.

Dont disagree, but every Indy I've spoken to has said the same thing. Fuel filter every 10k. Knowing what I know now I'm inclined to check pressure and flow first, but it's not hard to change, just $$$.

Originally Posted by BradC

Dont disagree, but every Indy I've spoken to has said the same thing. Fuel filter every 10k. Knowing what I know now I'm inclined to check pressure and flow first, but it's not hard to change, just $$$.

As would I if I ran a workshop. Generally speaking it’s hard to over service other than you are potentially throwing money away by replacing parts and fluids that potentially have life left in them.

I for one am glad to see that a data driven approach to maintenance is making its way into industrial services where machine analysis is done to determine the optimum life and service points for machinery, pumps, and other such things. This drives savings for consumers and minimises downtime and cost. Water Corporation in WA has started doing analysis of their high volume aquifer bores, and have moved from set service intervals to empirical analysis. Great savings, predictive maintenance avoiding failures, reduced downtime. Much like we’re seeing in mining machinery.

I look forward to the same approach in cars one day where pressure sensors tell us when the filter is due for replacement due to back pressure, where oil quality is reported (already a thing on some cars), etc. oh, sorry, won’t happen as they’ll all be crushed for electric vehicles!!!

And despite this, no one will believe in the science, the earth will become flat and the plague will be rife as everyone has denied progress and vaccinations. I fear for this world of ours

Flame suit donned. Come and get me.

Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster

I look forward to the same approach in cars one day where pressure sensors tell us when the filter is due for replacement due to back pressure, where oil quality is reported (already a thing on some cars), etc. oh, sorry, won’t happen as they’ll all be crushed for electric vehicles!!!

Yup, electric vehicles should actually do wonders for reliability as they are far simpler mechanically.
Instead they'll just go brain dead and we'll be "turning it off and on again" even more :P

Back on topic, I'm on my first Disco and LR in fact, it's a 2005 4.4L HSE... eeeek!
It's had a few little issues here and there, fuse gone which prevented locking system from working correctly, mirror clips broke, brake wear causing electronic park brake to fail and ALMOST leave me stranded going over the Barrington Tops.

I absolutely love it. The ride is great, it's comfortable, it has an awesome sound system and I've started to mod it thanks to all the awesome resources available on this forum and built by other enthusiasts.
Prior to this I actually owned a Mitsubishi Delica that was heavily customised as a camper, there was a great enthusiast community there and I was delighted to find something similar here.

The only change I would consider is an upgrade to a later model D4.

Thanks so much everyone for your thoughts and opinions!
Really appreciate it and the more i read and learn the more confident I feel.
Alot of the "issues" spoken about seem like common sense maintenance which is nothing new to my approach with all my vehicles.

A further question relating to the GAP IID tool - I saw a Youtube clip last night where the guy used the tool to check old faults on a second hand vehicle.
How difficult is it to plug these things in?
Is this worth getting prior to buying one so i can check vehicles before purchase? Or are the fault codes going to be too difficult to diagnose as to how big an issue (if any) there was?

The GAP iid tool is specifically coded to the vehicles vin to allow more detailed analysis. A generic code reader will show you higher level codes. I've not yet got a gap I if, it's on the list. I use the generic C-reader V, tells me pretty much the same thing, and you can clear codes and get out of limp mode. For more in depth I use a Foxwell code reader borrowed from a friend, this is the same spec level as the Gap IId, but not specifically locked to landrovers.

It plugs into the OBDii port under the dash (rhs). There's also Bluetooth modems that you can leave plugged in.

Rovacom are also good, I'm looking at them as well.

Perhaps not a bad idea to interrogate the car pre purchase so you can see historical fault codes.

Originally Posted by BradC

Dont disagree, but every Indy I've spoken to has said the same thing. Fuel filter every 10k. Knowing what I know now I'm inclined to check pressure and flow first, but it's not hard to change, just $$$.

Maybe so, and I agree with DJ about getting contaminants in, but at $26 a filter instead of replacing a 1600 HPFP plus all the Labour effort, I'd rather replace a filter a bit more often. The factory specified 52,000km is too long in my opinion. 10,000km probably too frequently as well.

Edit: oops, I meant $26 per filter (Britpart aftermarket) from UK suppliers PN LR 009705P.

Originally Posted by Eric SDV6SE

but at $6 a filter

I want to know where you buy your filters, mine are $100 a throw!

Hi Birdboy, a very new Disco 4 owner here, like 5 days ! Before we purchased our '14 SDV6 SE, we got a check done by MTA in Sydney. One of the things that they check for is fault codes. The report cost 375 dollars and was very thorough.

Good luck in your search.