Thread: Towing on sand: opinions please

put the extra stuff in the D4
you can safely go to 12 psi in the D4 and 15psi in the trailer for the soft stuff
keep momentum up and DSC off

Originally Posted by discorevy

put the extra stuff in the D4
you can safely go to 12 psi in the D4 and 15psi in the trailer for the soft stuff
keep momentum up and DSC off

This!

What pressures are you currently running? (All 6)
What transfer ratio are you using (L or H)?
Are you remembering to turn off DSC every time you restart?
What Terrain Response setting are you using?

Cheers.

We have 18” rims with KO2’s running at 16 psi front and trailer and 18 psi rear D4.
Bit reluctant to drop further as there’s a lot of sidewalk sag already and having to use a fair bit (a lot) of momentum. DEFINITELY turning off the DSC and almost always using Sand mode. Problem is you have to follow the existing tracks and the depth of these means the D4 is often dragging it chassis on the sand so need more momentum. I’m using the 2nd position on Gordons height sensor rods so spending all my time in “normal’ level ie Offroad height. WAY too lumpy to go at speeds required at extended height.
Overall feel very envious of all the Toyotas etc with oversized tyres and 2-3 inch lifts! They are visibly sitting SO much higher apart from maybe their diffs so they drag much less sand.
At least we are comfortable when we aren’t bogged!

Go lower, 12-14psi.

Avoid, Drop into Low Box.

You’re still dragging less at offroad height than their diffs. You should be able to be in Low at raised height and hold under 50km/h.

Originally Posted by mkalpokas@mac.com

We have 18” rims with KO2’s running at 16 psi front and trailer and 18 psi rear D4.
Bit reluctant to drop further as there’s a lot of sidewalk sag already and having to use a fair bit (a lot) of momentum. DEFINITELY turning off the DSC and almost always using Sand mode. Problem is you have to follow the existing tracks and the depth of these means the D4 is often dragging it chassis on the sand so need more momentum. I’m using the 2nd position on Gordons height sensor rods so spending all my time in “normal’ level ie Offroad height. WAY too lumpy to go at speeds required at extended height.
Overall feel very envious of all the Toyotas etc with oversized tyres and 2-3 inch lifts! They are visibly sitting SO much higher apart from maybe their diffs so they drag much less sand.
At least we are comfortable when we aren’t bogged!

Absolutely go lower with the tyre pressure!!!! I've had mine at 10 psi all round when it been really snotty on the beach. This was with 18"

Thanks for all your advice. Will go down even further with the pressures. So far found it easier to keep the revs up in low range and so more responsive when getting that sinking feeling.
BTW the Landrover mudflats: both useless and broken. Will definitely chase up Scott’s thread on home made variety.
cheers,
Mario

I have also found rock crawl works very well in soft sand.

And as others have said,that is with DSC off,tyres down low, good momentum,and at off road height.

I don’t often find Sand mode that good in the situation you’re describing. Low range and no terrain response mode with dsc off, then resort to rock crawl if you get stuck. But really it sounds like you need at least 14/16psi or even slightly lower and then air up somewhat for extended runs on the harder sand. Not exactly the same sand but as an example; fully loaded up Big Red couldn’t quite crest at 16psi and then flew up easily at 14psi. I’ve had similar improvements from a 2-3psi drop on Moreton too.

Cheers,
Scott