Thanks to Marc for the detailed fix to this problem.
Not sure if my problem is exactly the same as it is intermittent and my diagnostic tool (Blackbox) does not show this error (P176C-11). The problem has occurred twice in the past few days, but has so far 'rectified' itself, the first time within a few minutes, the second time overnight.
Situation - start car normally, selector raises as normal, foot on brake, try to turn selector and stuck - will not turn.
Before I go pulling the TCS assembly apart, are there any other reasons that the selector would get stuck in P and not rotate? Anything else that I should be checking?
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2014 MY15 D4 3.0 SDV6 HSE (Sold)
Complete Campsites Exodus 14 Camper Trailer
2015 Triumph Tiger XRT
You have to wonder about the clowns they employed to design these systems.
A Land Rover ... a vehicle that has always been a vehicle that has been used to go into some extremely rugged and remote places .. and they put systems like this in them.
It's like they got these people straight out of Uni .. no experience at all in 4x4 and remote travel .. gave them the latest catalogue from RS Components and said go for your life and design a complex whiz bang piece of wizardry that's not entirely reliable and while you're at it .. make sure that you don't build a release or bypass mechanism into it.
The damn car is full of this nonsense .. not to mention the cheap nasty plastic components like dodgy air intake manifolds and the positioning of components that need to have the entire body removed to carry out a generally easy service.
I thought my D2 was a problem to work on .. but this is at a whole new level of stupidity!!
The vehicle, when working as it should, is a very capable vehicle .. however .. most of the time I'm too terrified to take the thing offroad remotely out of fear of some minor unrepairable issue leaving me in a possible life threatening situation.
Land Rover have completely lost the plot!!
2001 Disco 2 - EU3 TD5 Auto
(Build Date: 08/01)
Mods: 2" Lift, HD Springs, Rear Bags,
ECU upgrade, IC, Silicone Pipes, EGR, De-web,
Digital EGT, Boost & Trans, 160W Spots,
12000lb Winch, Icom UHF & Codan NGT HF
245 75R16 Toyo 'Open Country' M/T's
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						SubscriberIt's probably more that a vendor comes to them with a you beaut idea that will be a great feature and enable them to sell more cars, or save weight or be quieter.I thought my D2 was a problem to work on .. but this is at a whole new level of stupidity!!
The vehicle, when working as it should, is a very capable vehicle .. however .. most of the time I'm too terrified to take the thing offroad remotely out of fear of some minor unrepairable issue leaving me in a possible life threatening situation.
hence the electric handbrake, and most probably the dial. Probably ZF has promoted it.
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						SubscriberIt is exactly that. ZF make the box that way and sold LR on the idea. Marketing demand wiz bang new stuff and suppliers continue to enhance and develop. It’s just life - fancy and new stuff sells.
If you don’t want to keep with the times and progress, even if going forward you sometimes take a step back, I guess you might consider the typewriter I have in the shed to post your comments on this forum? You can post the comment to me via Australia post and I’ll post it up for you. It’ll take a few weeks I expect.
Sure some tech seems like tech for the sake of tech, and really it is, but it’s all stepping stones to a new future. Some great steps, some not so. We wouldn’t have any of the things we take for granted if we didn’t push the boundaries in everything.
2010 TDV6 3.0L Discovery 4 HSE
2007 Audi RS4 (B7)
I have no problem with advanced technology and moving ahead.
I just don't think that a lot of this new tech belongs in a 4X4 .. regardless of the make.
A 4x4 has traditionally been used for doing remote travel, very often under arduous conditions and there is little place for whiz bang gadgets that ones very life may well depend are working .. especially if there is no way of bypassing a fault.
2001 Disco 2 - EU3 TD5 Auto
(Build Date: 08/01)
Mods: 2" Lift, HD Springs, Rear Bags,
ECU upgrade, IC, Silicone Pipes, EGR, De-web,
Digital EGT, Boost & Trans, 160W Spots,
12000lb Winch, Icom UHF & Codan NGT HF
245 75R16 Toyo 'Open Country' M/T's
Every 8 speed owner should watch this
9 things I did not know before I bought my Land Rover Discovery 4 / LR4 - YouTube
Did we get an answer if we need to disconnect the battery prior to unplugging the TCS?
EDIT: I went ahead and disconnected while the car was off anyway and reconnected about 20 mins later with no visible faults. But then again i don't have a diagnostic tool. Thats nexts on the shopping list.
Last edited by sparky_pete; 12th November 2021 at 08:50 PM. Reason: Update
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						Saved me a tow of shame. Thanks!
Just wanted to add my thanks for this fantastic write up. Ironic that I had to go to the other side of the world to find it, when I'm only a few hours from Solihull here. I don't have time to mess with repairing the unit at the moment, so I bit the bullet and got a new one (£400 offering to the LR gods), but when I have a bit of time I will have a go at the repair of the old unit and keep it as a spare.
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