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Thread: Fault code P2263-22: Turbo System

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    Anton Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Eric SDV6SE View Post
    Because the primary turbo is also controlled by a vacuum assisted solenoid. On the SDV6 there are two solenoids, one per turbo.
    Hi Eric, unfortunately this is not the case. The primary turbo is a VNT turbo controlled with electronic stepper motor, no vacuum solenoid involved. The secondary turbo is vacuum operated. Hence why I'm failing to understand how the vacuum lines affect any turbo function under 2500RPM as the secondary turbo only blends in at this RPM and above. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the vacuum system can't be the cause of P2263-22, I'm just trying to understand how if my DTC's indicate under 2500RPM and almost no load every time.
    Regards,

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    I had the same code with intermittant Restricted Performance events, usually on a slight incline with CC set at highway speed. The turbo bypass valve appeared to be working fine, but monitoring the signal from the valve on the bench showed occasional bad output to the ECU. In the end a new valve fixed the problem ($$$$$). I was also getting the code P004C(77)B.

    Then a month later I got Restricted Performance due to a sticky actuator on the secondary turbo with code P004C(77)A, 'exercising' the valve and an Italian tune up with Nulon Diesel turbo cleaner fuel additive appears to have fixed the issue, for now......

    It appears the previous owner drove quite sedately

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anton View Post
    Hi Eric, unfortunately this is not the case. The primary turbo is a VNT turbo controlled with electronic stepper motor, no vacuum solenoid involved. The secondary turbo is vacuum operated. Hence why I'm failing to understand how the vacuum lines affect any turbo function under 2500RPM as the secondary turbo only blends in at this RPM and above. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the vacuum system can't be the cause of P2263-22, I'm just trying to understand how if my DTC's indicate under 2500RPM and almost no load every time.
    Regards,
    The turbo itself isn't vac controlled, but the rest of the system relies on it. I think the isolation valve or something.

    I had the same issue not long ago.. Can't remember what I did now.. But it wasn't much.. no money spent

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    Anton Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by josh.huber View Post
    The turbo itself isn't vac controlled, but the rest of the system relies on it. I think the isolation valve or something.

    I had the same issue not long ago.. Can't remember what I did now.. But it wasn't much.. no money spent
    I'm also of the opinion that the route cause isn't anything major like secondary turbo etc, doesn't add up. The isolation valve is indeed controlled by vacuum but from my understanding (and I could be wrong) the valve opens the passage for air flow from the secondary turbo at 2500RPM thus blending in with the primary. This means under 2500RPM the spring tension of the isolation valve keep it closed, not vacuum. My thoughts, if there was a vacuum leak this should only trigger a DTC associated with the secondary turbo in play (over 2500RPM), low boost, leaking boost, MAF - Boost sensor correlation etc. I'm getting none of these.
    Back to the drawing board.

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    I think they start blending earlier to start the turbo spooling, if I think hard enough I think I free'd up all the linkages that I could see and I think it was the EGR in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anton View Post
    Hi Eric, unfortunately this is not the case. The primary turbo is a VNT turbo controlled with electronic stepper motor, no vacuum solenoid involved. The secondary turbo is vacuum operated. Hence why I'm failing to understand how the vacuum lines affect any turbo function under 2500RPM as the secondary turbo only blends in at this RPM and above. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the vacuum system can't be the cause of P2263-22, I'm just trying to understand how if my DTC's indicate under 2500RPM and almost no load every time.
    Regards,
    Correct, it's the air valve I meant that actuates the secondary turbocharger. The ait bslve can get stuck or not close properly.i took mine out and stripped it and cleaned it out once, then ended up having it replaced under warranty.

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    Okay so here is an answer, perhaps not the one size fits all answer, but maybe it helps someone.

    2010MY D4 3.0L, has had this issue for quite a long time, that nobody could pin down...

    P2263-22, in conjunction with a momentary loss of power, and restricted performance up on the dash.

    Had a long list of parts thrown at it; turbo, sensors, throttle body, etc, smoke tested, nobody found anything.

    Until the car went to Dave down in the Gong, and after going over literally everything in the car he recognised that the throttle plate was closing at the exact same time as the fault code being flagged and the loss of power.

    This made no sense at all but a resistor jammed in the unplugged throttle plate confirmed the theory, it was the throttle plate closing, at low load, kinda randomly, with the throttle plate bypassed, no faults.

    But why is it doing this? after ruling out everything else, it was decided that it must be a fault in the PCM somehow. That's when I got a call. After consulting with some very experienced LR techs & tuners, yes a corrupt EEPROM in the PCM has been known to cause such random things.

    So the car came to me, we pulled the PCM out, wiped it (virginised the EEPROM) and programmed it as a brand new module, but guess what? Still doing it...

    I took a virginised 2nd hand PCM off the shelf, programmed it to the car as a new module, and it hasn't faulted since... the original PCM went in the bin.

    Much relief from the owner of the D4, hats off to Dave for figuring out the problem, and to Nick for coming up with a way of virginising these PCMs so they can be programmed as new modules.

    It's fixed!

    Smiles all round from all those involved believe me!
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