Thread: Do I actually own a 4wd tourer?

Originally Posted by Tombie

Truth be told there’s nothing seriously wrong with most 4wds of any marque. Just pick the one that suits your purposes, budget and planned use and off you go.

Plenty of all makes and models out there doing there thing.

Ain’t that the truth.

All you need to do is drive them sensibly, don’t overload them and keep them well maintained.

Cheers,
Jon

Originally Posted by scarry

Come on Mick,have you ever driven a late model 70 series,and compared it to your Defender,that by the way, is 'tuned'?
The engines are COMPLETELY different,forget what max torque/power figures are on paper,have a look at the torque/power curves.
There is actually no comparison between them.
One is a pleasure to drive as it has so much low down torque,where the other has virtually nothing until the revs are way up over 2K.

I have driven the Defender in my sig extensively,and a 76 series frequently,so have a good idea what they are like.
And actually,the 76 isn't too far behind the Deefer in fuel economy,considering it's engine isn't the size of a milk bottle

Back to the D4,it actually hasn't been bad,a few issues,but nothing major so far.
The D4,and my old D2a are probably the most reliable of the LR's i have owned,so things are getting better,although the Deefer has been a nightmare with issues.

They are different and achieve the desired results in different ways.
It's the argument about big lazy engines vs smaller more efficient ones. Our Defender has plenty of torque low down and six gears help.
I didn't introduce the 79 to this thread, so for once I'm not guilty.
I wouldn't hesitate to take a D4 where the OP wants to go. Just service it and be careful about low profile tyres on the corrugations.

Hello Landrover guys. I seem to have upset a few people with my remarks about the disco 4.
I'm sorry I was just making statement. I have owned 4 Landrover products and the whole 4 have cost me a lot of money the only one I should cross of the list was a 200tdi gutless but very good on fuel very rarely broke down. Range rover absolute nightmare. td5 disco broken head, auto, admit it has 300ks on it I still have 05 Def 130 twin cab it's cost me lot of money as well. New ashcroft R380 taller fifth gear, larger bearing, new clutch dual mas, it was in truck for 14months and failed. So I had it rebuilt 4grd the dual mas flywheel is starting its little shudder everything Ive had get serviced and not flogged I'm 65 and drive like a 65. But haven't stopped spending on the 130 I quite like the 130 so I'm in process of fitting Ls3 and 6L90 auto to it mild cam, forged con rods, heaver rockers,HSV estractors so far have spent 12 grand. Electric hand brake.,get rid of that stupid hand brake leaver I did have a V8 barn door cruiser 3"exhaust, remapped.Pull a roadtrain good on fuel still have nightmares about selling it. One thing Toyota does have over Landrover is build quality and reliability. Once vehicle is up and running in the next few weeks I will look into build quality interior, doors, water leaks, so on. I'm not totally against Landrover but do think for what you pay for doesn't quiet add up

Originally Posted by Valiant barny

Hello Landrover guys. I seem to have upset a few people with my remarks about the disco 4.
I'm sorry I was just making statement. I have owned 4 Landrover products and the whole 4 have cost me a lot of money the only one I should cross of the list was a 200tdi gutless but very good on fuel very rarely broke down. Range rover absolute nightmare. td5 disco broken head, auto, admit it has 300ks on it I still have 05 Def 130 twin cab it's cost me lot of money as well. New ashcroft R380 taller fifth gear, larger bearing, new clutch dual mas, it was in truck for 14months and failed. So I had it rebuilt 4grd the dual mas flywheel is starting its little shudder everything Ive had get serviced and not flogged I'm 65 and drive like a 65. But haven't stopped spending on the 130 I quite like the 130 so I'm in process of fitting Ls3 and 6L90 auto to it mild cam, forged con rods, heaver rockers,HSV estractors so far have spent 12 grand. Electric hand brake.,get rid of that stupid hand brake leaver I did have a V8 barn door cruiser 3"exhaust, remapped.Pull a roadtrain good on fuel still have nightmares about selling it. One thing Toyota does have over Landrover is build quality and reliability. Once vehicle is up and running in the next few weeks I will look into build quality interior, doors, water leaks, so on. I'm not totally against Landrover but do think for what you pay for doesn't quiet add up

Mmm. Can't work some people out . Owned 4 LR dont like them spent bucket loads of money unreliable etc etc . Sold a LC still having nightmares and you've gone and spent 12k + on putting a v8 in a LR . I think one of us needs professional help. !

End of story. Seems bit much for you to take in. Just trying to explain what it cost over the years with Landrover. I'm trying to build something that pulls and is reliable 6.2 against 2.5 as stated I like the 130 so I'm going to turn it into a proper truck a new vehicle is probably 50 to 60 grand I will spend around 20 when finished and have a better thing

Originally Posted by theelms66

Mmm. Can't work some people out . Owned 4 LR dont like them spent bucket loads of money unreliable etc etc . Sold a LC still having nightmares and you've gone and spent 12k + on putting a v8 in a LR . I think one of us needs professional help. !

I have spent over $20,000 on my D2a over the last few years, Which does sound a bit 'Stupid" for a 4WD that is only worth $7,000/$9,000.
Why have I done this?

1/ I really enjoy driving the D2a V8.
2/ Now that I have spent all this money I now have a VERY reliable D2a.
3/ Simply Because I could

Over the last few years I have only spent $380 on my 79 series V8

Interesting comments @trout1105 and @Valiant barny. Context was definitely needed to understand your opinion so thank you for the additional comments. I look forward to watching the build!

From the comments i will take the chance but sink a bit more into planned preventative maintenance before heading off.

I get the comparisons mentioned but realistically Mrs Stiltz is being stretched to agree to glamping(campervan) so the thought of her driving a ute missing out on our current comforts is unlikely. However my boys would love it!

theelms66 mate I never stated I don't like Landrover just saying what's happend to me over the years with them. I do like Landrover I obviously have had a few over years with a bit of bad luck I guess. And as far as the bucket loads of cash goes it's bit like trout 1105 stated because I can
Cheers have good day