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    New D4 SDV6 3L - Prevention Tips

    Hey guys,

    New here, I currently own a 2014 SD4 FL2 and love it,

    Decided to bite the bullet on a 2013 Disco4 HSE in the color and spec I've always wanted at a dealership. I was under the impression the TDV6 was the troublesome engines and the SDV6 3.0L was ok, upon reading here and around I'm now starting to worry I've potentially bought myself serious problems.

    Car has 169k on the clock and serviced right up until March 2020. I haven't picked it up yet.

    My question is - looking at that mileage has me a bit worried about the crankshaft (I still need to find out if the engine has been replaced in this car to begin with), what should I do the first time I pick it up right away to hopefully prevent myself needing a new engine?

    There's a lot of info all over the place and just looking for like a consolidated list of preventive care and advice, Should I take it to a Landy Specialist asap for him to update/upgrade anything in the engine etc?

    Appreciate any helpful feedback

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flashgear View Post
    Hey guys,

    New here, I currently own a 2014 SD4 FL2 and love it,

    Decided to bite the bullet on a 2013 Disco4 HSE in the color and spec I've always wanted at a dealership. I was under the impression the TDV6 was the troublesome engines and the SDV6 3.0L was ok, upon reading here and around I'm now starting to worry I've potentially bought myself serious problems.

    Car has 169k on the clock and serviced right up until March 2020. I haven't picked it up yet.

    My question is - looking at that mileage has me a bit worried about the crankshaft (I still need to find out if the engine has been replaced in this car to begin with), what should I do the first time I pick it up right away to hopefully prevent myself needing a new engine?

    There's a lot of info all over the place and just looking for like a consolidated list of preventive care and advice, Should I take it to a Landy Specialist asap for him to update/upgrade anything in the engine etc?

    Appreciate any helpful feedback
    Congratulations on the purchase!
    I think there is a general feeling that if it hasn't "done it" by 160k then should be all right.
    Hope I just haven't put the mockers on it for you!
    You'll have 3 months warranty from the Dealer?
    Encouragingly, there are many owners on this Forum with circa 300,000 klms and no probs whatsoever.

    Preferably, your engine will have been serviced with correct oil/spec every 10-12,000 klms.
    If not, then ensure you do that in the future.
    I think someone here once said that it is believed that only approx 1% of engines have had this problem, so your (our) odds are quite favourable.

    If you go ahead with the purchase, check the auto oil has been changed and if not, I suggest you make it a priority.
    The belts should have just been done at those klms due to mileage and age (7 yrs), will cost up to $2k parts & labour.
    Take it to an LR/RR specialist Indie, they think differently to a Dealer!
    Enjoy!
    Before: Ser 2a LWB, Ser 3 S/W, 1979 RR 2 door, 1981 LR Stage 1 V8 (new), 1985 LR 110 V8 County (new), 2009 RRS TDV8
    Now: MY13 D4 TDV6. "E" rear diff. Cambo's magic Engine & Auto Tune. 1968 Austin 1800 Mk1 auto (my 5th)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flashgear View Post
    Hey guys,

    New here, I currently own a 2014 SD4 FL2 and love it,

    Decided to bite the bullet on a 2013 Disco4 HSE in the color and spec I've always wanted at a dealership. I was under the impression the TDV6 was the troublesome engines and the SDV6 3.0L was ok, upon reading here and around I'm now starting to worry I've potentially bought myself serious problems.

    Car has 169k on the clock and serviced right up until March 2020. I haven't picked it up yet.

    My question is - looking at that mileage has me a bit worried about the crankshaft (I still need to find out if the engine has been replaced in this car to begin with), what should I do the first time I pick it up right away to hopefully prevent myself needing a new engine?

    There's a lot of info all over the place and just looking for like a consolidated list of preventive care and advice, Should I take it to a Landy Specialist asap for him to update/upgrade anything in the engine etc?

    Appreciate any helpful feedback
    Wouldn’t worry about crankshaft issues,actual percentage of failures is pretty low,but it can happen at any mileage.Knowing if it is going to happen is virtually impossible,but regular oil changes may help.

    I would take it to a good Indie such as Ricks 4WD before you pay for it.He specialises in LR’s only,and is at Nerang.

    Needs to have good service records,or forget it.

    Maintenance will be high,as it is with all D4’s,particularly as time goes on.

    It will have the 8 speed auto,which is bulletproof if serviced correctly.

    Good luck with your purchase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Discodicky View Post
    The belts should have just been done at those klms due to mileage and age (7 yrs), will cost up to $2k parts & labour.
    Take it to an LR/RR specialist Indie, they think differently to a Dealer!
    Enjoy!
    Just booked my 2013 HSE in for its 7 year service at my indie. I have only done 39000km since new (don't ask )

    I spoke to him about replacing the belts and he was not in favor of it as his experience shows a better longevity than LR would suggest. He is going to do a visual inspection to ensure that they're ok. Similarly, he will check the transmission oil for signs of degradation etc..

    Time will tell I suppose but he is well respected. Coincidentally, I got the car rego checked at our local mechanic who I have been going to for over 40 years and he knew of the indie concerned and said he has a good rep.

    Martin

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    Eeeek. I know they can run at least double their service life, but with the cost of an engine, why would you risk it? If you’re going to do it sometime in the next year or two anyway, what real value are you obtaining?
    2010 TDV6 3.0L Discovery 4 HSE
    2007 Audi RS4 (B7)

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    Quote Originally Posted by letherm View Post
    Just booked my 2013 HSE in for its 7 year service at my indie. I have only done 39000km since new (don't ask )

    I spoke to him about replacing the belts and he was not in favor of it as his experience shows a better longevity than LR would suggest. He is going to do a visual inspection to ensure that they're ok. Similarly, he will check the transmission oil for signs of degradation etc..

    Time will tell I suppose but he is well respected. Coincidentally, I got the car rego checked at our local mechanic who I have been going to for over 40 years and he knew of the indie concerned and said he has a good rep.

    Martin
    Visibly inspecting the belts is not a "5 minute job" by any stretch of the imagination.
    You'ld virtually have to remove them to inspect each "tooth" to ensure it doesn't have fine hairline cracks.
    I truly hope for your sake that he does check them thoroughly.
    Frankly, I think it's not worth the risk.
    Before: Ser 2a LWB, Ser 3 S/W, 1979 RR 2 door, 1981 LR Stage 1 V8 (new), 1985 LR 110 V8 County (new), 2009 RRS TDV8
    Now: MY13 D4 TDV6. "E" rear diff. Cambo's magic Engine & Auto Tune. 1968 Austin 1800 Mk1 auto (my 5th)

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    7 years OR 165000km, just get it done, belt will have degraded somewhat with sitting around (pun intended) for that long. As others have stated the work to do an inspection is nearly the same as replacing in terms of what has to come off to access it.

    Get both the timing belt and the hpfp belt done at the same time

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    Wouldn’t worry about crankshaft issues,actual percentage of failures is pretty low,

    Scarry - what is the actual percentage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nixo View Post
    Scarry - what is the actual percentage?
    The only ones that would know are probably the manufacturer.

    Getting any info out of them would be harder than getting blood out of a stone.

    You could do a poll on here, which might give you some sort of idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    The only ones that would know are probably the manufacturer.

    Getting any info out of them would be harder than getting blood out of a stone.

    You could do a poll on here, which might give you some sort of idea.
    Pointless really New D4 SDV6 3L - Prevention Tips

    What percentage of owners does the website represent - 5-10%?
    Do we know the sales numbers in Aus to get perspective?
    How many members are active on the site - ignoring how many registrations, so who’s going to respond?
    How many duplications will you get over time between multiple owners for the same vehicle?

    Nothing meaningful will come from it. You can be assured that a failure such as that drives people to seek information, register on sites such as this and complain. Most happy people just get in and drive and aren’t enthusiasts so don’t join forums - most of the Chelsea tractor brigade.

    I doubt in all reality it’s more than 1 in 100 eg 1% and probably a lot lower than that. And I’m talking only 3L crank failures, not 2.7 oil pump failures etc. That would add further complication and dilution of the results
    2010 TDV6 3.0L Discovery 4 HSE
    2007 Audi RS4 (B7)

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