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    How many faults?

    So the D3 is still poorly, despite the reconditioned gearbox and new mechatronic unit it is still being bad (going into limp mode on an irregular basis - happens once, then nothing for 200km, then 5 times in 10km), so headed to a independent garage locally who has an autologic scan tool and specialises in European vehicles.
    Well 32 faults later and the only modules without faults being rear diff control module, the transfer case one and the steering angle sensor and I'm beginning to get depressed.
    He also noted that the no.5 injector is at the limit of its adjustment and its running a little rough!
    He reset all the fault codes to give us a base line, but then it had a hissy fit again last weekend (2 limp modes in about 5 kms on the way home), so it'll go back in to him on Monday for a general health check and see what codes it's thrown up again.

    Just for reference the codes are:
    Engine control module
    P0087-00 Fuel rail system pressure - too low
    All terrain control module
    U0101-87 Lost communication with transmission control module
    U0401-94 Invalid data received from engine control module/powertrain control module
    U0402-94 Invalid data received from transmission control module
    U0416-94 Invalid data received from vehicle dynamics control module
    Transmission control module
    U2023-86 Engine torque information
    Vehicle dynamics control module
    U0101-87 Lost communication with transmission control module
    U0401-68 Invalid data received from engine control module/powertrain control module
    Ride level control module
    U0416-86 Invalid data received from vehicle dynamics control module
    Parking brake control module
    U0101-87 Lost communication with transmission control module
    U0100-87 Invalid data received from engine control module/powertrain control module 'A'
    Restraints control module
    B00D2-87 Restraint system malfunction indicator 1
    U0122-87 Lost communication with vehicle dynamics control module
    U0155-87 Lost communication with instrument cluster control module
    Instrument cluster
    U0101-87 Lost communication with transmission control module
    U0122-87 Lost communication with ride level control module
    B1A87-68 Battery disconnection/electronic control unit reset
    Body control module
    B1C62-12 Battery saver relay output circuit
    U0155-87 Lost communication with instrument cluster control module
    U0300-55 Internal control module software incompatibility
    Audio front control module
    U0010-87 Medium speed CAN communication BUS
    U1A03-87 Vehicle configuration parameter
    U0300-55 Internal control module software incompatibility
    B1D21-13 Remote control switch
    Parking aid control module
    B1B44-96 Rear right outer sensor
    U0155-87 Lost communication with instrument cluster control module
    U0140-87 Lost communication with body control module
    U0300-55 Internal control module software incompatibility
    HVAC control module
    B1B74-00 Front foot - defrost mode stepper actuator
    B1B75-00 Front foot - face mode stepper actuator
    B1B76-00 Front left air blend stepper actuator
    B1B77-00 Front right air blend stepper actuator

    If anyone has any cunning plans or ideas feel free to reply and if anyone has any suggestions regarding the injector that isn't going to bankrupt me I'd love to hear.
    Once I get a list of the faults on Monday I'll put them up to compare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LR3 Disco Owner View Post
    Engine control module
    P0087-00 Fuel rail system pressure - too low
    Start here. A pile of those faults listed will cascade off this one.

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    Yeah I wondered if the fuel pump issues I'd read about might be the culprit, I'll ask the mechanic on Monday to check it.

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    That fault has a bad history of being a failed high pressure fuel pump. I wouldn't touch an injector till the rail pressure was sorted. It may be an injector but without the supply pressure. You'll never know

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    Sad to say it but you will be needing to address the HPFP first. most if not all of those faults would appear on mine when i was having issues with the fuel pump.
    When mine started to play up i was driving to Darwin from Adelaide, sometimes i could do 500ks without it faulting then would fault 5 times in 20ks.

    Made for a very stressful drive. Since i didnt want issues and was keeping the car i replaced both high and low pressure pumps. Never seen a series of faults like that again.

    As for cost, i guess if you have time you could investigate getting a replacement pump from the UK , as i needed the car i got 1 out of Perth

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    How many faults?

    You really need to find someone who specialises in Land Rovers. Indy’s that specialise in European vehicles tend to have a background in the German manufacturers but have code readers that read all European cars without an understanding on how to interpret the Land Rover faults.

    The only real fault listed with the engine (the fuel pressure fault) is the one that needs to be sorted first. In order of priority you initially ignore U (Comms) coded faults, and start with P (Power Train) before looking at B (Body) or C (Chassis).

    You also need a code reader that reads the 4th element of the code to determine if it is a confirmed fault (in this case it would be a confirmed fault driven by a pressure sensor).

    Anyway this is from the LR Manual:


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    Most probably not as bad as it looks. I have found that disconnecting the battery can throw a whole range of “lost communication faults”. I have had a number of faults in your list over the years. But had no symptoms. The only reason I knew about them is that I regularly plug in the GAP tool. If I didn’t have that I would not have know. You have a problem but not as bad as it looks from the number of faults. When I quizzed the mechanic about the faults he said “if your diagnostic tool reads zero faults it’s not a Land Rover”.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanC View Post
    Most probably not as bad as it looks. I have found that disconnecting the battery can throw a whole range of “lost communication faults”. I have had a number of faults in your list over the years. But had no symptoms. The only reason I knew about them is that I regularly plug in the GAP tool. If I didn’t have that I would not have know. You have a problem but not as bad as it looks from the number of faults. When I quizzed the mechanic about the faults he said “if your diagnostic tool reads zero faults it’s not a Land Rover”.
    But.. did you have the P0087 low fuel pressure fault ? this is in my eyes, and first hand experience the big one. the rest seem to come as the car faults once it goes into limp mode from the low fuel pressure.

    Bulletman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulletman View Post
    But.. did you have the P0087 low fuel pressure fault ? this is in my eyes, and first hand experience the big one. the rest seem to come as the car faults once it goes into limp mode from the low fuel pressure.

    Bulletman
    Should have clarified that that is one fault I haven’t had. As you said that is the one to concentrate on. Just saying all those faults don’t equate to that many actual problems that need rectifying. I remember when I got my GAP tool and read the faults for the first time, it was a bit disconcerting to say the least.
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    I would start with something more basic...

    *Remove the battery, then behind that is a plastic cover, remove that and you will see the alum silver looking Transfer Case Control Module.
    *remove the 3 plugs, unclip the unit, remove it.
    *Look at the pins in the socket, I can bet there is green corrosion in the plugs, you can also bend the 4 tabs open, pop the cover and look inside, again you may find green corrosion on the board.
    *In both cases its no good and needs replacing.
    *You can buy a used one from a same same model and plug it in and clear your faults.

    Go from there
    Regards
    Daz


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