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    Quote Originally Posted by akovach View Post
    Just wondering why you didn't take the body off? You spent 3 days getting it out with a remarkable effort. A workshop can get the body off in about 4 hours making the engine removal so much easier. Wondering more out of curiosity.


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    Originally Posted by akovach
    Just wondering why you didn't take the body off? You spent 3 days getting it out with a remarkable effort. A workshop can get the body off in about 4 hours making the engine removal so much easier. Wondering more out of curiosity.



    A brother recently removed the body from his RRS using a friend's 2-post hoist which took him 3 full days.


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    3.0 TDV6 broken crankshaft / engine rebuild


    Originally Posted by akovach
    Just wondering why you didn't take the body off? You spent 3 days getting it out with a remarkable effort. A workshop can get the body off in about 4 hours making the engine removal so much easier. Wondering more out of curiosity.



    Because doing DIY the car will need to be out of action for possibly a very long time finding parts and once body removed using a hoist you are in an awkward position what to do with it. Even pushing the engineless hulk back into a corner of the workshop might not be possible for months. At least this way it’s in a place it can stay.

    My experience is it’s about a 4-6 month process allowing for parts sourcing shipping and all associated phaffing around.





    Generally answering the question .. nothing else to add.







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    Whilst looking around at new cars to maybe replace the D4, I saw that new Ford Everest Sport and Platinum are running 3ltr V6s. Aren't these the same engines as our Discos are running? If so, why won't they fit if we do suffer the unimaginable?
    Anyone know what the difference is, if any?
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    Going further after the initial analysis, we have evidence of what happened...



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    3.0 TDV6 broken crankshaft / engine rebuild

    Quote Originally Posted by disco gazza View Post
    Just shy of $11250 Aust.
    Not bad..

    DG
    As long as broken crank hasn’t ruined the block overheating could be worse as leads to cracked bores and definitely warped ali heads all which needs stripping, fixing and rebuild. The OP could get away with everything above the crank as-is possibly ( save for gaskets and a light refresh).

    Will be really interesting to see the damage report. Is it anew coffee table or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabsky View Post
    Going further after the initial analysis, we have evidence of what happened...



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    This is a bit of a worry, since unless my eyes deceive me, there is no apparent sign of seizure caused by spun bearing shells blocking off oil flow, followed by/causing broken crankshaft.
    Rather, it looks like the shaft just simply broke for no obvious reason???
    I hope that was not the case!
    Can you comment please as to your thoughts why it broke?
    Before: Ser 2a LWB, Ser 3 S/W, 1979 RR 2 door, 1981 LR Stage 1 V8 (new), 1985 LR 110 V8 County (new), 2009 RRS TDV8
    Now: MY13 D4 TDV6. "E" rear diff. Cambo's magic Engine & Auto Tune. 1968 Austin 1800 Mk1 auto (my 5th)

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    Even appearing to have been part-cracked for some time, but perhaps just the light.
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    You can see that tiny flange between pistons 1/2 and 3/4 has the weight of the world on its shoulders being furthest from the flywheel end. It is definitely the weakest link in the chain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by disco gazza View Post
    Just shy of $11250 Aust.
    Not bad..

    DG
    Understatement of the year…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Discodicky View Post
    This is a bit of a worry, since unless my eyes deceive me, there is no apparent sign of seizure caused by spun bearing shells blocking off oil flow, followed by/causing broken crankshaft.
    Rather, it looks like the shaft just simply broke for no obvious reason???
    I hope that was not the case!
    Can you comment please as to your thoughts why it broke?
    Yes that's right, it looks like none of the crankshaft shells have turned. On the other hand, it can be seen that one of the crankshaft support bearing shell is heavily worn. I think that it could be defective, which contributed to the beating of the shaft at both ends, which can be inferred from the visible worn outer shells. The crankshaft was subject to vibrations and due to material fatigue, it simply did not resist and cracked.

    I would like to know the opinions of more experienced colleagues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PerthDisco View Post
    You can see that tiny flange between pistons 1/2 and 3/4 has the weight of the world on its shoulders being furthest from the flywheel end. It is definitely the weakest link in the chain.
    and there's a hole through the middle of it!
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