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Thread: 3.0 TDV6 broken crankshaft / engine rebuild

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    Was it in Malaysia where LR tested all vehicles and replaced engines that failed the undisclosed test? Was it a test for vibration / balance?
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    Looking at the photos of the crank there seems to be some sort of tubular hollow in the crank almost like there was some sort of void in the steel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck View Post
    Looking at the photos of the crank there seems to be some sort of tubular hollow in the crank almost like there was some sort of void in the steel.
    Looked like an oil passage to me.

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    If you get the crank to Newcastle somehow, I have a guy who teaches failure analysis. Has done for 20 years. Could give him a look

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    Use a 2.7 territory engine

    You have to be very careful re-using a snapped crank block. The last one I removed I had to sledgehammer the broken pieces of crankshaft out in order to remove the torque converter (I could not turn the engine).
    The 2.7 engine is almost the same as the 3.0, the only noticeable difference being the breather outlet in the v of the block (the hole comes from a slightly different position). The modification is due to the 3.0 fuel pump being slightly taller.
    I routed the breather pipe to fresh air to overcome the difference, but you could cut and shut the original breather unit to fit.
    The only other update was to replace the main and big end bearing shells. All of the engines I have dismantled whether running or not have had noticeable wear on the shells, with many having missing thrust washers.
    The 2.7 engine performs well, its hard to tell the difference.
    This is a very good site to visit; DISCO3.CO.UK - Index

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnhorgan View Post
    You have to be very careful re-using a snapped crank block. The last one I removed I had to sledgehammer the broken pieces of crankshaft out in order to remove the torque converter (I could not turn the engine).
    The 2.7 engine is almost the same as the 3.0, the only noticeable difference being the breather outlet in the v of the block (the hole comes from a slightly different position). The modification is due to the 3.0 fuel pump being slightly taller.
    I routed the breather pipe to fresh air to overcome the difference, but you could cut and shut the original breather unit to fit.
    The only other update was to replace the main and big end bearing shells. All of the engines I have dismantled whether running or not have had noticeable wear on the shells, with many having missing thrust washers.
    The 2.7 engine performs well, its hard to tell the difference.
    This is a very good site to visit; DISCO3.CO.UK - Index
    ? The major difference is the stroke of the crank and the size of the bore of the block which are both greater.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pippin View Post
    ? The major difference is the stroke of the crank and the size of the bore of the block which are both greater.
    And a heap more power and torque.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PerthDisco View Post
    And a heap more power and torque.
    Which may be the source of the high number of bearing/crank failures!
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    What build date and kms travelled for this vehicle please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pippin View Post
    Which may be the source of the high number of bearing/crank failures!
    That tiny bit extra stroke increases the offset of the rod journal from the main crank journal compared to a 2.7 also just a few fractions without the room to beef up the metal in between.

    Anyway, I think people generally have the mindset that manufacturers leave a huge amount of no risk untapped HP up their sleeve. I am not in this camp. It would be interesting if this engine was running a stock tune.

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