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    Hi Brad.

    You've been very helpful. Thank you.

    I checked with my guy today and he said that one of the first things he does is check the LPFP, which he said in my case that it was well within all the required specs, so thats good. So I'll give the fuel rail pressure sensor a go and hopefully resolves the problem and I can start enjoying the car as well as get my wife off my back.

    Thanks again.

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    Fuel Pressure Challenge

    So I thought I would give an update on my plight to resolve P2290-00 Injector control fuel pressure too low. Since my last post I have had LPFP tested and all ok. Replace the fuel rail pressure sensor as well as all 6 injectors.

    Picked up the car today and about 2ks Restricted Performance and Tran Fault showed up. Turned the engine off and reset. Drove straight back to the workshop and same fault code presented itself. P2290-00 Injector control fuel pressure too low.

    So far I've replaced Fuel filter (several times). HPFP. ECU. Fuel rail pressure sensor. 6 injectors. Also overlaid wiring to the fuel pump.

    I'm now completely stressed and frustrated. Does anyone have any thoughts please? I'm desperate.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morris View Post
    So I thought I would give an update on my plight to resolve P2290-00 Injector control fuel pressure too low. Since my last post I have had LPFP tested and all ok. Replace the fuel rail pressure sensor as well as all 6 injectors.

    Picked up the car today and about 2ks Restricted Performance and Tran Fault showed up. Turned the engine off and reset. Drove straight back to the workshop and same fault code presented itself. P2290-00 Injector control fuel pressure too low.

    So far I've replaced Fuel filter (several times). HPFP. ECU. Fuel rail pressure sensor. 6 injectors. Also overlaid wiring to the fuel pump.

    I'm now completely stressed and frustrated. Does anyone have any thoughts please? I'm desperate.

    Thanks
    I guess one of the assumptions that’s not always valid is that the new parts are actually good. I suspect you still have a dud HPFP despite its replacement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster View Post
    I guess one of the assumptions that’s not always valid is that the new parts are actually good. I suspect you still have a dud HPFP despite its replacement.
    I recall that happened to Bulletman with a "known good but second hand HPFP" (I have his original one here awaiting a teardown along side mine). I note that Morris said he used a new Ford Terry pump, so it was a brand new pump anyway and the part numbers cross-referenced.

    The only other thing I recall ever being mentioned is the return line from the filter to the tank which has a restrictor in it that can come loose, but that would cause noticeably low fuel pressure at the schraeder and the low pressure system would fail testing.

    Given you've replaced practically everything else, as inconceivable (yes I keep using that word, and yes I think it means what I think it means) as it seems I'd concur with Jeff.
    I see the graph of fuel pressure, but have you managed to graph the fuel pressure against the PCV and VCV requested positions when the fault occurs? If it's a sticky valve it's absolutely obvious in the data.
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    Fuel Pressure Challenge

    Thank you for your responses. Yes you are right Brad it is a new Ford Territory pump, but I believe the only difference is the branding.

    So I dropped the car back to the mechanic and he took the car for a long drive monitoring the fuel pressures and injectors and the cat didn't fault. Everything was fine according to his diagnostic instrument.

    I collected the car and about 500m down the road at low speed, 40-60kph, low rpm it faulted. I pulled over and restarted. The car reset itself, then I couldn't reproduce the problem. I drove it low speed & low rpm. Drove it like I stole it. Stop go under harsh acceleration. Nothing. Clocked about 45kls. So now it appears it's doing the opposite. Faulting on low speed low rpm and not under rpm load.

    I've parked it for the night and try again in to morning with my gap tool connected. See what happens. Is it possible the fuel system including the ECU is resetting itself after the new injectors. The car goes like a bullet.

    I'm really lost now.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morris View Post
    Is it possible the fuel system including the ECU is resetting itself after the new injectors.
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    I'd check that someone hasn't fitted a 2nd fuel filter/pre-filter and not told you or recorded it in the manual or service book, although that would show up as fuel starvation under full throttle, or look for a blocked, pinched or kinked fuel line.

    Also the LP pump tests fine when there is no fault, but might be something intermittent, so not excessively worn but losing 12volt power, or seizing/binding?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RANDLOVER View Post

    Also the LP pump tests fine when there is no fault, but might be something intermittent, so not excessively worn but losing 12volt power, or seizing/binding?
    That’s why I drove around with a fuel pressure gauge cable tied to the drivers side wiper arm. Not pretty, but absolutely definitive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BradC View Post
    That’s why I drove around with a fuel pressure gauge cable tied to the drivers side wiper arm.
    Good thing you don't live in Melbourne.
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    Fuel Pressure Challenge

    Thanks agin everyone. My wife is fed up with me and this car.

    My mechanic assures me the LPFP is working correctly.

    Took it out tonight and clocked up about 60ks of city driving and freeway driving. No fault. I'll give it another go tomorrow.

    Thanks again everyone.

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