Seized engine in D4 - what are my steps from here?

**Tins** · 22nd December 2022, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by ATH

"But I look wistfully at every D3/4 I see. Crossing them off was so tough a decision because no big 4WD has any right to drive like that." I understand the feeling. We love (wife still loves Defenders more though

) the D4s ride and power for towing but at 6 years old now and having read so many horror stories I'm changing vehicles and have ordered a Prado. Yes I know they without character etc etc and have their own faults, but maybe having to replace the Discos engine with some dubiously refurbished one from somewhere at enormous cost, does not appeal to me. Plus having gone down to one car as the wife no longer drives, that would makes things even worse.
I just maybe go for a D3OO Defender but can't really see another 50 grands worth of value in them.
Here's hoping the OP gets his fixed at a reasonable price and ours last until the new vehicle arrives in maybe a year or so......
AlanH.

Can't say I blame you, Alan. I went the other way with the OKA, as it's self contained, and is mechanically very simple. Perkins engine has the injector pump as a 300TDi, and all the turning things are American truck so anyone can fix them. I hope I have a few years left to use it, and I don't have a wife ( I laugh to think of her reaction if I'd brought the OKA home while she was still here

) so travelling solo means I need simplicity and above all reliability. The thought of being stuck, like the OP, with limited funds is the stuff of nightmares ( I'd feel the same with a new Defender Form over function doesn't do it for me, unless it's a Ferrari ). So when the OKA moves on I'll probably buy a KIA or something.

If only LR had put the TDV8 in the D4 from new....

PS, what's the wait for the Prado? My DIL wants one, or a Y62. Yes, she's nuts. She married my son.

**mowog** · 22nd December 2022, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Thomas27488

It's such a shame, anyone who has driven one of these will understand what a pleasure they are to drive.

I have spent a significant amount of money on my 2010 3L D4. It started with needing a new Radiator and escalated from there. 2 New Turbo's and LOTS of other things while the body was off. I looked at buying something else at one stage but there is nothing that comes close except for another new Land Rover and I can't afford that. I did have a new Defender on order until I was made redundant. I am at 265,000 klm on my D4 and it is just an awesome bloody thing to drive.

**ATH** · 23rd December 2022, 09:08 AM

"PS, what's the wait for the Prado? My DIL wants one, or a Y62. "
What's a Y62? Something from Tojo? Really must get googling some things I haven't heard of before but feel strangely sort of "couldn't care less" about so much these days. Must be soemthing to do with being well into my 8th decade.

Anyway, Prado wait times are approx 12 months much the same as the Defender. All Putins fault or something.
I've ordered a flat back as although it cuts tank capacity I hate the spare wheel indentation in the rear door if an RWC is fitted. Plus as fuel is available in so many places these days it's not so much of a problem a couple of jerries on the roof can't fix.
We had a 120 series Prado moons ago, not exciting but reliable and will do what we want. Terrible mismatch between engine and 4 speed box but the new transmission should be better.
AlanH.

**Slunnie** · 23rd December 2022, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by ATH

What's a Y62?

Its the current Patrol. I like these a lot. They're big, strong, powerful but thirsty.

**Tins** · 23rd December 2022, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by ATH

What's a Y62? Something from Tojo?

Nissan. One of those huge petrol V8 Patrols. Long way from the Ranger she drives now.

Originally Posted by ATH

All Putins fault or something.

Everything is, apparently.

Originally Posted by ATH

I've ordered a flat back as although it cuts tank capacity I hate the spare wheel indentation in the rear door if an RWC is fitted.

I didn't know you could do that. I agree, I hate that look.

Originally Posted by ATH

Plus as fuel is available in so many places these days

As long as such things remain allowed.

**Tins** · 23rd December 2022, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Slunnie

Its the current Patrol. I like these a lot. They're big, strong, powerful but thirsty.

And they make such a "Supercar" noise!

Son has a Y61 TD42 auto ( converted from one of those 3.0 hand grenades ). Boy, is he in for a surprise if she gets one.

**loanrangie** · 23rd December 2022, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Slunnie

Its the current Patrol. I like these a lot. They're big, strong, powerful but thirsty.

With a look only a mother could love

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**Tins** · 23rd December 2022, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by loanrangie

With a look only a mother could love

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Maybe so, but still better than the rest of the Oriental offerings... Pajero Sport, anybody?

**scarry** · 23rd December 2022, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Tins

Maybe so, but still better than the rest of the Oriental offerings... Pajero Sport, anybody?

One of my Brothers has had one for a few years now,loves it,and no issues.

He has a place on Fraser,so always over there,he did change the suspension to get a bit more clearence,though,it is a bit low for the soft sand.

**scarry** · 23rd December 2022, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by ATH

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Terrible mismatch between engine and 4 speed box but the new transmission should be better.
AlanH.

Better,but no where near as sorted as the ZF.A good tuner will sort it.

The box in the 200 is no where near as smart either,we had ours tickled by a good tuner,so much better.

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