Good chance inlet manifold cracked,unless an intercooler hose is shagged.
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						Supporter2013 TDV6 3L symptoms
idles rough
almost no acceleration in drive
white smelly smoke
low to minimum revs
cannot drive vehicle as no power to propel
also had P2264 water in fuel sensor circuit
drained fuel from fuel filter
waiting on new fuel filter to arrive to swap out though not the main problem
tried few things
started car with no air filter in case dirty air filter no difference
swap 2x MAF sensors with each other no diff
inspected hoses no rips obvious
took out the Y piece and egr hoses x2 did have carbon build up but not closed off
suspecting egr valves open/closed which are diff on a 3L compared to 2.7L.
suspect secondary turbo bypass valve - valves does not freely move as yet
both turbos actuator rods move freely
did a soapy bubble test for possible manifold split nothing obvious
considering doing a smoke test next
any ideas would help please
Land Rover
Good chance inlet manifold cracked,unless an intercooler hose is shagged.
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						SubscriberLack of acceleration and rough idle leads me to suspect stuck EGR.
What code reader are you using? Should be something showing up
2010 TDV6 3.0L Discovery 4 HSE
2007 Audi RS4 (B7)
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						Supporterjust the two codes P1247 turbocharger boost pressure low and the water in the fuel circuit P2264. Just installed new fuel filter and checked fuel to be ok. I can hear the clicking noise from the cleaning motion of the 2ndary turbo bypass valve so ruled that out. Cant see any cracks in the manifold? thinking the egr valves but the rod connection moves freely both sides so doesn't the movement of the rod (shaft) open and close the egr valves? might try some wd40 in that area though the valve is internal to see if that makes a difference or not. thanks
Land Rover
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						SupporterSo I think it is one of 3 things wrong as pointed
egr valve stuck open
secondary turbo bypass valve stuck
inlet manifold split (or a hose for that matter)
blanked off the egr hoses which made no difference (my thinking was if the egr valve was stuck open then blanking off would just throw up an error code but function normally) then would confirm egr problem
also the two exposed rods for the egrs move freely so thinking they operate the valve inside so cannot be stuck?
the exposed rod for the turbo bypass valve below the radiator does not move freely - so did a wash, now to apply wd40 and see if it will free up (guessing it should move freely as with egr valves) could be the culprit
changed fuel filter still getting water in fuel circuit error?
purchased some fuel additive for egr cleaner and poured into tank and reved motor
creating a smoke testing machine at home to try that next as well to determine if the manifold is split somewhere
thinking also to remove the egr pipes and spray egr cleaner or wd40 into the opening hole, might see if i can pock something inside to determine if the valve is stuck open or not?
Land Rover
the exposed rod for the turbo bypass valve below the radiator does not move freely - so did a wash, now to apply wd40 and see if it will free up (guessing it should move freely as with egr valves) could be the culprit
No, the turbo actuator is solenoid controlled and does not move freely. If you force it, you will strip the gears in the actuator.
Its a simple test, use your eyes... visually even the smallest crack there will be black tar like residue where the crack is and often its on the underside of the plastic engine cover.
They also crack in the same spot, just on the edge of the injector acoustic foam where the contour of the inlet changes.
A split top turbo hose will have the same black residue where the split is, standing in front of the engine, place your hand on the turbo hose, slide it round and feel for a split on the back/underside.
Regards
Daz
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						SupporterI did a wash of the engine so no evidence of black deposits anywhere that i can see
I did do the smoke test and worked too well until the container got so hot that the glue I had used to secure the hoses started to melt but again no evidence of smoke coming out anywhere so now thinking its not a cracked inlet manifold
Leaning towards a busted hose or pipe somewhere?
I compared the actions of the egr with a working D4 both the same, even the bypass turbo rod below the radiator so ruling them out for now
I did remove the top intercooler hose seems fine some rubbing evident but no hole
keep looking
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						SupporterSimilar symptoms on my 05 D3 were caused by a cracked intercooler matrix. Check with a mirror on the unit below the radiator.
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						Supporterso fast fwd - took car to mechanic told motor needs replacing but when challenged on what they did was just start the car up - no charge no time spent on the beast, little to no interest shown. no smoke test either go figure...
my last attempt at a smoke test did not work out well so thought to do a pressure test using my arb compressor.
Idea came from youtube... pvc plumbing end cap pictured with a tubeless valve connected to arb air compressor - soapy water sprayed onto vehicle looking for bubbles. Observations - it is unable to hold pressure of any psi. shouldn't the engine hold 20-30psi of pressure or should i connect elsewhere on the engine. still starts drives (just) and unconvinced the lower end of the motor is stuffed as a guess from the mechanic. thoughts pls...
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