I think you'd probably have to compare them to RRS 3.6 diesels, and maybe add a bit of a premium for the extra space and novelty value.....carsales.com.au
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I think you'd probably have to compare them to RRS 3.6 diesels, and maybe add a bit of a premium for the extra space and novelty value.....carsales.com.au
In my mind there is no comparison with a Range Rover and a Disco 4
no winch bars , no rear bars, no long range tanks, limited roof racks, no full chassis , some with alloy chassis so easily damaged when recovering if really stuck, even more electrical crap to go wrong and cost more, less space and less load capacity
The Rangie certainly doesn’t suit my needs
The L320 RRS has a slightly shorter version of the D3/D4 chassis.
Well we sat down & worked out a price guide for the TDV8 conversions;Quote:
Originally Posted by discomatt69
A rough guide of costs for these jobs;
3.6 into 2.7 D4, ~$31,000 (2010-2012MY, 6-speed)
3.6 into 3.0 D4, ~$40,000 (2010-2012MY, 6-speed)
3.6 into 3.0 D4, ~$43,000 (2013MY, 8-speed)
4.4 into 3.0 D4, ~$52,000 (2010-2012MY, 8-speed conversion)
4.4 into 3.0 D4, ~$49,000 (2013MY, 8-speed)
4.4 into 3.0 D4, ~$50,000 (2014-2016MY, 8-speed)
Obviously this doesn't include the cost of the vehicle itself.
The exact cost will depend on what you pay for the engine & transmission, esp for the 4.4 the price of these engines has gone nuts, recently one was sold out of a wrecker here in Sydney for $25k, just the engine with turbos.... the 8HP to suit the 4.4 is typically $5k now. To buy a 3.6 engine & transmission is significantly cheaper, or you buy the whole vehicle just the engine & gearbox.
If you are starting with a 2010-2012 3.0 and go 4.4, then the conversion from 6HP to 8HP is part of the job, if you wanted to put an 8HP behind a 3.6 in a 2010-2012 it's also possible for additional costs. 3.6 into 2014-2016MY D4 is not feasible because of electronic architecture differences.
Supply of engine & transmission, control modules
Sensible work done while the engine out, turbos & injectors refurbished, new hoses, etc
Wiring swap or modification in engine bay & cabin as needed.
Custom exhaust & other custom work e.g. engine mounts for 4.4 are full custom.
Some cost recovery may be possible if the original transmission & engine are good (usually they aren't hence the conversion).
And the old turbos of the 2.7 or 3.0L provided as cores to for reman service but not a lot of $$$ these days.
The main thing is this is not swapping all the RRS wiring and modules into a D4, the D4 still thinks it's a D4 so the rear aircon, tailgate locking aren't messed with, it still shows a Land Rover logo on the touchscreen not Range Rover, the VIN when you plug in with a scan tool is the original Discovery 4, not a donor RRS. This is the way to do it properly, and it's how we do it. The guys who don't understand the software in these cars swap everything over.
For a supercharged V8 D4 it's only sensible to start with a 5.0 V8NA 2010-2013 or a 3.0 V6SC 2014-2016, throwing in the conversion from diesel to petrol and all that just doesn't make sense. And if you start with a 5.0NA or 3.0SC then you don't need to swap the transmission, the original 6HP28 or 8HP70 bolts up, just needs a modified tune. If you're converting from diesel to petrol you need not just an engine, but a transmission too, and everything else. Not worth the bother. Budget $20-$25k for a good low km 5.0SC from a wrecker. Otherwise these are the easiest of all the conversions (to do the job, perhaps not to pay for). $10k in labour & programming is realistic.
Our partners in Colorado (we provide the software solution, they do the mechanical/electrics) are doing the conversions in a working week. 5.0NA or 3.0SC, to 5.0SC, no fault codes, no errors on the dash, they just work.Quote:
Originally Posted by cripesamighty
4 months is a joke.
It is, which TDV8 would you like 3.6 or 4.4?Quote:
Originally Posted by cripesamighty
If I won Lotto tomorrow I would take the 4.4 TDV8. Of course I would have to buy a D4, but I would still keep my D3!
Just buy a 4.4 TDV8 L322.
maybe a stupid question but why so much for the 4.4 conversion?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cambo_oldjaguar
how much is labour?
How much of s allocated for the engine?
in the video posted they have the majority of the job done in 3 days
I would do the conversion if / when the 3 l dies because I love the D4 but 50k is just beyond logic and not worth it or is that the point because it’s too much hassle
I dare say the donor parts are more expensive in AU compared to the UK. Over there, used cars are much much cheaper, and the land rovers more common than on our shores. High supply, low demand.Quote:
Originally Posted by discomatt69
Add to that the R&D that OldCambo sound to have done to develop a 'better' outcome than a disco that thinks it's a range rover, which should rightly see an uplift.
Without any research to back this up at all - it may be cheaper to simply import a converted disco from the UK? :P
As I mentioned the 4.4 engines are going for $20k, one recently went for $25k
You need the 8HP from the 4.4 as well the going rate is $5k for them.
So there’s $25-$30k straight up.
The custom engine mounts to make it sit in the D4 are $2k
You’ll need a lot of additional small parts & modules out of the donor car, like the glow plug modules & wiring, airboxes from an L322, this, that, there’s $5k in sundry parts easy.
From our side the engine & trans tunes, and other software mods are $2.5k
Pretty much every hose & tube under the bonnet is modified or custom, which costs $$$$$, we allowed $3k there.
It’s not like a 3.6 which drops in on factory mounts and factory hoses & fittings line straight up.
It all adds up.